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This small section of the article appears not up to the standard of the rest. For example: Did the Hungarian King imprison Vlad at the behest of Fatih II as is suggested? Who was Fatih II? Is he the same as the red-linked [[Fatih the Conqueror]]? This appears to contradict [[Vlad III the Impaler]] anyway. Also is "Bogdan" a place as implied here, or a person, as Vlad's article says? The grammar could use some work too. Cheers. '''''[[User:Miremare|<font color="#ff0000">Mi</font><font color="ce0000">re</font><font color="820000">ma</font><font color="440000">r</font><font color="0">e</font>]]''''' 14:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC) |
This small section of the article appears not up to the standard of the rest. For example: Did the Hungarian King imprison Vlad at the behest of Fatih II as is suggested? Who was Fatih II? Is he the same as the red-linked [[Fatih the Conqueror]]? This appears to contradict [[Vlad III the Impaler]] anyway. Also is "Bogdan" a place as implied here, or a person, as Vlad's article says? The grammar could use some work too. Cheers. '''''[[User:Miremare|<font color="#ff0000">Mi</font><font color="ce0000">re</font><font color="820000">ma</font><font color="440000">r</font><font color="0">e</font>]]''''' 14:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Improvement Drive
The article History of the Balkans has been listed to be improved on Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. You can add your vote there if you would like to support the article.--Fenice 17:18, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
Proposed Merge
I think "History of Russo-Turkish wars" is not general enough to be inclusive. I oppose merging. Tom Harrison Talk 12:36, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. 12.220.94.199 00:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Agree. Some issues between Ottoman Empire and Russia is unique to them; which needs its own article.--OttomanReference 07:20, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- Disagree. I think that most of the material in the "Russo-Turkish wars" already includes other important battles and that the "Russo-Turkish Wars" be made part of the "Ottoman Wars in Europe" USer Woody Woodruff
I disagree
I do not think these two subjects should be merged since the Russian Wars were seperate to those fought vs the rest of Europe.
It would be folly to merge the two. The Austrians were fighting the Ottomans before the Russians. The Russians were primarily on the offensive, whilst the Austrians on the defensive. Besides, the European-Turk wars began well before the Fall of Constantinople, let alone the formation of Russia!
The Ottoman siege of Malta, of the Island of Rhodes and the Naval Battles of Lepanto had nothing to do with Russia. Malta is a life time away from Russia.
If Turkey counts as part of Europe, what about all the battles between the Romans and the Ottomans in Anatolia? In Asia Minor? Believe me, no Tsar took part in those!
It would be like merging the Thirty years war in Europe with the First world War. They have a very loose link, and around the same battle front, but they should not be merged!
I think there is much more detail to the European wars then is said in this article. Keep it seperate for now.
Venice, Rhodes, Crete, Bulgaria, Serbia, MALTA.
Need I say more? I suppose Venice is a part of Russia then?
DONT MERGE THEM!
How many Turks Dracula's armies killed...
"It is not known exactly how many Turks Dracula's armies and their allies in battle killed throughout the span of his career, but it is estimaded to have been as high as one hundred thousand." This sentence will be removed because it is intentionally abasing the dignity of a nation. Lysandros 18:28, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- I protest at the removal. What nation, are we exactly 'debasing'? The fact is, the Turks were unstoppable, and no man with such little military or financial resources could defeat such an army. Dracula was the man's nickname. I really see no point in its removal. War is war. You try to kill as many of the enemy as possible. The enemy for Dracula happened to be the Turks. He killed many, good for him, bad for the Turks and such is war.
1462-1483: European campaigns
This small section of the article appears not up to the standard of the rest. For example: Did the Hungarian King imprison Vlad at the behest of Fatih II as is suggested? Who was Fatih II? Is he the same as the red-linked Fatih the Conqueror? This appears to contradict Vlad III the Impaler anyway. Also is "Bogdan" a place as implied here, or a person, as Vlad's article says? The grammar could use some work too. Cheers. Miremare 14:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
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