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Wikipedia:Date_formatting_and_linking_poll

Hi there, Snappy! I noticed that like me, you are opposed to any form of dates autoformatting. However, you did not sign your entry, but that has now been rectified. I would let you know that I have created some userboxes which you might like to add to your userspace to indicate your position. You will find the boxes here. Ohconfucius (talk) 13:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my signing. I have used your 'Lipstick on a Pig' infobox, nice one! Snappy (talk) 13:26, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Celebrity Bainisteoir

The section of the Celebrity Bainisteoir article that says a few words about each of the bainisteoirí does not limit info to their occupation, therefore the edit summary "Sexual orientation is NOT an occupation" makes no sense to me. Mentioning that Nell McCafferty is a lesbian is not treating her sexual orientation in a disrespectful way, nor treating it as a weird thing. Rather, it is encyclopedic, mentioned by the sources used for the article, and relevant in relation to the brief mention about her experience working exclusively with men. McCafferty is, as the source mentions, outspoken about her lesbian identity. There is no reason not to include that fact as a point of information in this article. --Boston (talk) 03:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Nell McCafferty's sexuality is dealt with in her article. None of the other Celebrity Bainisteoirí have there (presumably straight ) sexuality mentioned in their brief bios. Nell McCafferty has been famous in Ireland since the early 70s and was well known as a feminist and journo for many years before she came out. If she first became famous for being a lesbian and was only famous for being one, then maybe it might be acceptable but since she's not, the narrow stereotyping and pigeon-holing are unacceptable. Snappy (talk) 07:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I firmly consider this neither stereotyping and pigeon-holing, but I am willing to give weight to you perceiving it this way. Know that for me, who had never heard of McCafferty, this does make her blurb quite less interesting. --Boston (talk) 11:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

What!? She's interesting because she's a lesbian. Anyway, you've lost me there. Says something about you, not sure what though. Snappy (talk) 12:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

• Only IPA allowed for pronunciation guides? Please show me that policy. As I'm sure you know, the majority of readers find IPA inscrutable. The fact that we're able to find "bwin-ish-TYOH-ir" as a verifiable and referenced pronunciation is a boon to the the article. What possible benefit is there to removing this? --Boston (talk) 03:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

You can always learn IPA, its not that hard! The phonetic pronunciation is Hiberno-Irish centric, a person from England or the US or New Zealand would not pronounce "bwin-ish-TYOH-ir" the same way. Even I don't agree with it I'd day "Bon-ish-tore". There is also 3 dialects of the Irish language (Donegal, Galway & Kerry), each with there own pronunciation, so if there is no agreement in the Irish language, what's the point of one phonetic pronunciation for English? "English pronunciation in Wikipedia should be transcribed in such a way that its interpretation does not depend on the reader's accent. For this end, broad transcriptions of the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) should be used" - See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (pronunciation) Snappy (talk) 07:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

It's not a matter of ME learning IPA, I didn't say I don't know it. If we can give the majority of readers an approximation of how "Bainisteoir" is pronounced, we should. Irish phonology is so different that most English speakers in the world might look at the word and imagine something like "bane-is-TEE-or". The fact that we can follow "bwin-ish-TYOH-ir" with a reference number is great; just like a fact that says "the woowoo tree grows to be 3000 meters tall" or whatever, it's not an editor saying it, it's the verifiable source that has said it. --Boston (talk) 11:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Did you read Wikipedia:Manual of Style (pronunciation)? Because if you had, you would know that makey up pronunciation guides are against wikipedia policy. And as I said before there are 3 different pronunciations in the Irish language. I came across foreign words all the time on wikipedia without a pronunciation but I make a stab at it and get by, better that then fake and incorrect hiberno-english centric one. Snappy (talk) 12:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

A cited pronunciation is considerably different than an editor's own ad hoc creation. I know about the dialects of Irish. This pronunciation is simply useful; let's not over think it. If you want to amend it to say (pronounced "bwin-ish-TYOH-ir" according to one approximation) that sound be fine. And by all means, include IPA as well. --Boston (talk) 12:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

No, lets not litter wikipedia with this crap. Snappy (talk) 12:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Also please note: "For English words, transcriptions based on English spelling ("pronunciation respellings") such as /proh-NUN-see-AY-shən/ may be used, but only in addition to the IPA...Ad-hoc descriptions such as "rhymes with both" or "rhymes with paid" may be useful for describing English sounds" - --Boston (talk) 12:23, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, so you have actually ready it now, at last! What you are putting is not "pronunciation respelling", and that is only to be used in addition to IPA, not on its own. Snappy (talk) 12:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I haven't spoken to you with even a bit of disrespect. You, on the other hand, have revealed your true colors. If this, rather that amiable discussion, is the tone you prefer, let's end this discussion with me reminding you about the WP:3RR. --Boston (talk) 12:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

My true colours, oh purlease, darling! I don't suffer fools gladly, and if you are the easily offended type then that's too bad, Daphne! I'm only editing here for four years what's this 3RR you speak of?! (btw, that was sarcasm). Anyone, before I remove "bwin-ish-TYOH-ir" again, I'd like to point out that this in violation of wikipedia policy. Please explain as per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (pronunciation), why you persist in adding such blatant violations of wikipedia policy to this article? Also, the really sad part about this is, that in certain dialects of Irish (of which you are totally ignorant), Bainisteoir is almost phonetic in English. That makes us and this silly edit war, just about the 2 most saddest people on the planet! Go figure! Snappy (talk) 15:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)