Talk:White people

Black People are more important???

Why the article "Black People" is blocked and "White People" not? Or both should be blocked or both shouldn't.

White people and humor

Isn't it true that white people have given the gift of humor to the world, that of taking themselves as a joke? I have noticed that white people act in an exaggerated fashion all the time, like they are mocking themselves. I used to just think this was the way white people were, but then I began to think that they were making fun of themselves and that it was sort of an inside joke.

Either way, I think it is important to note on the page something about how white people generally act silly, sometimes ambiguously through sarcastic humor, and sometimes in a merely self-pitying, self-deprecating fashion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Climenole (talk • contribs) 12:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Costa Rica

I erased Costa Rican section because there is no certain facts of these percentages, the only certain numbers is that 94% are white or mestizo, just like Chilean facts. The recent Costa Rican census only indetifies minorities like black, amerindian or chinese groups, that together make a 6% of the population, and the other 94% fit in the "other" category. Therefore Costa Rica should not be considered as a white majority country, based in these facts and in the perception of anyone who had been there.--Mlnte (talk) 17:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I restored the section because it gives sourced information relevant to the article. As there is no true, absolute definition of white. The section does say that mestizos and whites form 94% of the population. Let's leave it at that and not remove otherwise pertinent information based solely on individual perception of "how white" its inhabitants are.--Ramdrake (talk) 18:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I think this section does make clear that 94% of Costa Rican population are either white or castizo, not white or mestizo that is the real fact. And in other sentence assumes that 82% of this 94% are white, and that is the point of discrepancy. The primary source of the CIA World Factbook and other sources are based on Costa Rican National Census, and this Census does not make this assumption. So I´m asking your permission for making this changes to make the article more fiable, specificly to erase that 82% white majority, there is no certain proof of that.--Mlnte (talk) 22:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't have a problem with this revision as it seems the 82% isn't sourced anyway.--Ramdrake (talk) 23:06, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

2 MDs from Newcastle

They state that the term white in practice, refers to people of European origin with pale complexions". This statement is totally incorrect for any usage I have ever heard in the US. I can think of no situation where dark complected Greeks, Cypriots, Lebanese, Italians, Spaniards, or Germans would be considered non-white. The black Irish are white in the US if not in Newcastle.Nitpyck (talk) 05:50, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

My apologies to the doctors- what they actually say in the referenced paper is "White is effectively a category for everyone left out of specific racial and ethnic groups." "The US define a white person as a person having origins in any of the original people of Europe, North Africa or the Middle East. Until recently persons from India were considered White in the US Census."

the actual gist of the paper is that white is a fairly useless category for medical studies since it includes too many different types to be useful. That is this group is not sufficiently heterogeneous to use for purposes of epidemiology and health research. Since this is the opposite of what is claimed in the article, and they're not presently at Newcastle I have edited the section. Nitpyck (talk) 06:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

History White Lebanon

Based on what I read in Wikipedia, The Middle East was once considered part of southeast Europe, and later it was put in southwest Asia. I don't know why any of these things were done but I am just telling you what I read. Lebanon was Phonenicia, a Phoenician named Fenusius Farsa brought the Ogham language to Ireland. Ogham is the Gaelic language. Tara is in Ireland and it was a Phoencian colony. Maybe that's why the Irish aren't considered white? The Phoencians took tin from Britain and copper from Cyprus and turned it into bronze. They sold the bronze to the Greeks. Maybe that's why the British aren't considered white? Christopher Columbus was from Genoa, Italy. Genoa and Sicily were Phoencian colonies. Maybe that's why the Italians aren't considered white? Raymond of Toulusee came to Lebanon from France in the 1100s during the First Crusade. The French crusaders controlled Lebanon until the 1200s. The French took the Lebanonese Christians to Cyrpus during the crusades. The French and the Lebanese Christians fought against the Muslims in Cyrpus so that they the Muslims wouldn't use Cyrpus as a lauchning point to invade and conquer Europe. They did their part to protect Europe. Some of the Christians in Cyrpus today trace their roots back to Raymond of Toulousse and the Lebanese Christians in the crusades. Raymond is a very popular name in Lebanese Christian circles. France is very popular in Lebanese cricles. Now you know why? The majority of the Christians in Lebanon today trace their roots back to the Crusades and Raymond of Toulousse. The Germans came to the Middle East in the 4th Crusade. However, remember to the Europeans the local Christians in Lebanon were heathens and had to be reeducated. The majority of the people who call themselves Arab Americans in America are Lebanese Christians and trace their roots back to the crusades. I think this is why they write white on the US census. Anyway, hopefully all my information is correct, i got it from Wikipedia, sorry about the mispellings —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.227.46 (talk) 02:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Lebanese in Australia, Caucasoid versus "White":

Why is it that Australia is probably the only country in the Western World where Lebanese have a "stigma" status attached to them? Australia still has a Nordicist view of what "white" is and socialy the term is restricted to Anglo-Celtic, Germanic, Nordic and other kindred people of similar phenotype. Southern Europeans are often referred to as "Wogs" which indicates to a degree that they are not seen as being "white" on the same level as Northern Europeans.

Here is an image of the Australian far-right politician James (Jim) Saleam: http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2008/02/02/PM_australia_wideweb__470x278,0.jpg

Saleam is said to be born to an Anglo-Celtic mother and a Lebanese father (others say Turkish). Aesthetically he looks "white" (i.e. fair skinned, blue eyes, Caucasoid features and brown hair which turned grey) and in anyone's language he is still fully Caucasian. However, both left and right wingers have criticised him for being an advocate of white nationalism due to his part Lebanese ancestry. To those of you push the POV that Middle Easterners are equally white as Swedes, why is it that Saleam's Lebanese ancestry is something that has not been dismissed and ignored and he is criticised for his political beliefs because of his background? I surmise that Australian society's restricted identification of "white" has something to do with it. Interesting considering that Lebanese are classed as "white" in U.S., South American cencuswes and were accepted as white in South Africa during Apartheid.