Jump to content

Talk:Jeffrey Rosen (legal academic): Difference between revisions

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Content deleted Content added
Lessig (talk | contribs)
Line 11: Line 11:


I think this section is newsworthy and notable. It's attracted what is esentially his most significant claim to notability. Without it, quite frankly, he's not notable. If it is kept out, we'll have to send this to [[WP:AFD]], because there is not much left. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 00:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
I think this section is newsworthy and notable. It's attracted what is esentially his most significant claim to notability. Without it, quite frankly, he's not notable. If it is kept out, we'll have to send this to [[WP:AFD]], because there is not much left. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 00:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

"His most significant claim to notability"? Rosen has been one of America's most important legal commentators for more than a decade. A single post on the TNR website is fodder for partisan attacks, not a claim to notability. I've rewritten the section to keep the facts, and avoid the non-neutral smear. [[User:Lessig|lessig]] ([[User talk:Lessig|talk]]) 14:08, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


== Disputes? ==
== Disputes? ==

Revision as of 14:08, 15 September 2009

WikiProject iconBiography Stub‑class
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.
StubThis article has been rated as Stub-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Note icon
An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article.
WikiProject iconLaw Unassessed
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Law, an attempt at providing a comprehensive, standardised, pan-jurisdictional and up-to-date resource for the legal field and the subjects encompassed by it.
???This article has not yet received a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
???This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Heritage

Is he of Jewish heritage? Badagnani (talk) 18:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sonia Sotomayer controversy

I think this section is newsworthy and notable. It's attracted what is esentially his most significant claim to notability. Without it, quite frankly, he's not notable. If it is kept out, we'll have to send this to WP:AFD, because there is not much left. Bearian (talk) 00:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"His most significant claim to notability"? Rosen has been one of America's most important legal commentators for more than a decade. A single post on the TNR website is fodder for partisan attacks, not a claim to notability. I've rewritten the section to keep the facts, and avoid the non-neutral smear. lessig (talk) 14:08, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disputes?

Someone placed tags on this page saying that there were disputes about POV and neutrality. I was directed to the talk page, but no dispute appears here. Does anyone have a problem with the text as written, and , if so, what is it? Coemgenus 01:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Before I edited it, the original stub had one source, was lacking any evidence of notability, and was something of a puff-piece for Rosen, a conservative dime-for-the-dozen law professor and commentator. I only learned of him from a dispute about Judge Sonia Sotomayor in "the blogosphere" and, as usual, looked up his Wikipedia article. There was a short paragraph about the Sonia Sotomayor controversy, but poorly written, without context and without any citations. To be frank, I could not find any reliable sources, so I used the pro- and anti-Rosen blogs and fixed up the language a bit. If anyone can find any such source of better quality, go ahead. Another user removed the entire section, without any attempt to re-write it or find better sources. Rosen is, in my mind, only notable as a blogger, and thus the only sources publicly available are blogs. What remains of the stub fails to assert or prove notability. But for this controversy, Rosen is just not notable as a professor or writer. With the material removed, the stub is now too slanted in favor of the subject, without any encylopedic content. What is left is fluffy spam. Unless the controversy is included, the subject is unencyclopedic and non-notable, and thus ought to be deleted. I've written or edited lots of articles about people for whom I don't care. Notable people are often controversial. But if the controversy is not included merely because the sources are unreliable, then there is nothing left that ought to remain at all. So I tagged the article. I'd support deletion if something is not added in about the controversy. Bearian (talk) 14:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
After reading some of his recent writing, I think he is notable. I do think this article is still slanted. Bearian (talk) 20:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article may portray him in a favorable light, but I can assure you that he is not conservative -- is that the blogosphere impression of him now? When I started this article, he was known as a center-left professor and author. I agree that the Sotomayor part of the article was poorly written and can be improved. Coemgenus 11:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]