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::*This block is not appropriate. Sandstein had disputes with Giano multiple times. [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 19:27, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
::*This block is not appropriate. Sandstein had disputes with Giano multiple times. [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 19:27, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


== Sandstein ==

I shall not be requesting an unblock from Sandstein because he had no right to block in the first place. Regarding the Eastern European mailing list, there is a very large bundle of emails concerned directly with supporting various of Sandstein's views and actions on ANI and elsewhere. This came to pass, and not only duped and manipulated him and many others, but also, it seems, served to boost his esteem and self-confidence. Why Sandstein's actions were so in tune with that mailing list is a matter for the Arbcom, and I won't speculate upon it here. However, while the case is in progress these facts should be noted when evaluating his actions in furure. In fact, it may be wise as an involved Admin, if he laid down his tools for the duration of the case. As I said here [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=314569563] whatever actions are taken against me, nothing, and I mean nothing, is going to detract me from seing fair play for all the many who suffered as a result of that mailing list's actions. Now, I shall return to my holiday and wiki-break and keep half an eye on the case. [[User:GiacomoReturned|Giano]] ([[User talk:GiacomoReturned#top|talk]]) 22:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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The Wikipedia philosophy can be summed up thusly: "Experts are scum." For some reason people who spend 40 years learning everything they can about, say, the Peloponnesian War -- and indeed, advancing the body of human knowledge -- get all pissy when their contributions are edited away by Randy in Boise who heard somewhere that sword-wielding skeletons were involved. And they get downright irate when asked politely to engage in discourse with Randy until the sword-skeleton theory can be incorporated into the article without passing judgment.

Lore Sjöberg, from "The Wikipedia FAQK"

This, the funniest thing I have seen on wikipedia, was stolen from DreamGuy


Please note there is now a designated area for complaining about me here (I do check it from time to time). This talk page is now only for important and interesting matters. Giano (talk) 11:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Old messages are at:


Essays and thoughts:


Please leave new messages below

AWAYThis user is non-permanently away from Wikipedia as of 19 September 2009. This is because Fear of 'zillas

September 2009

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for violation of conduct policies at [1]. Please stop. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below.  Sandstein  10:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This block is explained, and submitted for community review, at WP:ANI#Giano. If you would like to make a statement in that discussion, please ask another editor to copy it to WP:ANI using the {{helpme}} tag.  Sandstein  10:34, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't see how calling someone a fool is appropriate, but there should definitely be a Fahrenheit 451 barnstar for Sandstein's approach to dispute resolution. Block first, ask questions later, with no effort to avoid all the ensuing disruption and drama. He also gives no consideration to resolving this type of situation in an amicable and reasonable fashion as common sense might dictate.
    And of course Sandstein has been in numerous disputes with Giano in the past so there is no possible way he can be construed as being uninvolved. This is a very bad block. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:27, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Sandstein

I shall not be requesting an unblock from Sandstein because he had no right to block in the first place. Regarding the Eastern European mailing list, there is a very large bundle of emails concerned directly with supporting various of Sandstein's views and actions on ANI and elsewhere. This came to pass, and not only duped and manipulated him and many others, but also, it seems, served to boost his esteem and self-confidence. Why Sandstein's actions were so in tune with that mailing list is a matter for the Arbcom, and I won't speculate upon it here. However, while the case is in progress these facts should be noted when evaluating his actions in furure. In fact, it may be wise as an involved Admin, if he laid down his tools for the duration of the case. As I said here [2] whatever actions are taken against me, nothing, and I mean nothing, is going to detract me from seing fair play for all the many who suffered as a result of that mailing list's actions. Now, I shall return to my holiday and wiki-break and keep half an eye on the case. Giano (talk) 22:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]