Talk:Respect

124.180.220.213 07:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)Many people assume that respect is a given, and feel slighted when their 'phantom UTC

If there were no respect, people being disrespectful towards one another people wouldn't be able to cooperate at all. I think I'm going to chip in on this after I will have to read through a very large work about respect and Immanuel Kant. -BStarky 12:26, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Not really sure what "phantom respect" is, but there's certainly an interesting article to be written on the notion of "respect" as used in rap culture etc., in which respect has to be gained rather than lost. Unfortunately, I'm not the person to write it! 146.87.253.69 13:17, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

yes 81.105.250.41 18:05, 25 November 2005

When people tell me that I'm disrespectful of them, what they really want is deference. I think that is what might be meant by "phantom respect". I've come to counter by saying, "You don't know what respect is!" Hackwrench 00:14, 2 July 200 (UTC)

Encyclopedias vs. Dictionaries.

This should either be a disambiguation page or a Dictionary page. Pure definitions are dictionary fodder. If this is transformed to a Disambiguation page (of which I don't know how to do personally) with links to specific articles such as Tony Blair's policies and the Otis Reading Song, so be it.it means you respect some one or thing

Otherwise send this article to Dictionary.....chaz171 14:10, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I strongly agree Rklawton 17:05, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Despite having enjoyed contributing to this page, I basically agree too. Zargulon 13:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I seriously would consider turning this page into a proper article. There is a lot which one could write about on the subject of respect (from a meta-ethical viewpoint), and it's a pity that this article is so poor. Respect is a psychological and ethical phenomenon; why not have an article on it ? M4rx (talk) 17:50, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

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This paragraph was a comment and then was deleted. I figure it should at least be kept on the talk page because it could possibly be improved/worked on and used.

Respect is the objective, unbiased consideration and regard for the rights, values, beliefs and property of all people. Kant's categorical imperative as well as what is commonly understood of being a gentleman incorporate the concept of respect.--> to be able to love eachother and treat others the way u want to be treatedJtneill - Talk 14:26, 24 January 2006 (UTC

One thing respect lacks is itself, as shown by the length of description on most websites and books,

This was description was particularly well written. It gave many different angles on the definition

of respect giving a broader view of how to define what respect is.  Because of its length, 

to best keep the strengths of this description, it will help to simplify it into points.

With an improved organization it will make it more clear and  more agreeable to the eye.

OK. First off: I do not code in HTML _at all_ so I apologize for any editing errors or things I forget to add in. Just wanted to mention that I fixed some grammar and deleted a duplicate section, along with something that was completely extraneous, talking about how everyone should give more respect to their parents!!! No one ever does!!! they were the one that gave us life peoples!!! (with AWSOME grammar!!!) Next, I wanted to add my agreement to the people down in section six, adding that I live in a place with only my dad, who is currently spending his time doing one of four things: Telling me how I messed up; making snide comments on how he could do better(but never doing it); complaining about how he has no money; and complaining about his life. You tell me, does that sound like someone to respect, or how about someone who just got a 3.74 GPA last semester? (OK, so I have some ego issues) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.163.189.68 (talk) 03:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted another Paragraph

I deleted the line that talked about the song Respect by Aretha Franklin, since its covered in the disambiguation page.Justbobdanish (talk) 19:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Respect is like love-one term many meanings

I added the content below to the article to stimulate the development of a more complete and less academic treatment of respect a term which we all take for granted in common usage but one that is loaded with hidden meanings and contradictions.

• Respect is also a term used colloqually to denote deference induced from fear or terror as in "I am going to teach you some respect". Street bullies (female and male) are often accorded 'respect' due to successful efforts to terrorize rivals or other less powerful people. Manhood in warrior cultures often is connected to unconditional obedience ('respect' for) to warrior codes. This usage of respect would seem to be a distortion or even a paradoxical contradiction of the traditional or more civilized useages of the word. 71.102.254.114 01:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

This distortion is the rule rather than the exception, in my experience. 71.109.234.35 (talk) 04:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Evidence and Grammar

"An elderly person will get respect from the people around just because they old. This is an inherent nature in that our species has." Can someone cite some evidence that respect for the elderly is inherent in our species (as opposed to, say, a social construct perpetuated by religions or ageist institutions of power)? Also, the grammar is awful. Tyreseus 23:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I also noticed the poor grammar. The first paragraph of the article needs cleanup in this regard. Also, that paragraph bothers me because it uses the second person ("you", "your", etc.) instead of the third person which I would expect from a Wikipedia article. 71.109.234.35 (talk) 04:33, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

This whole article stinks

Is there anything more to say? The grammar is terrible, the theory unfounded and the structure questionable. I recommend this for a complete rewrite. Schizmatic 21:39, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

== on editing Respect, s./b peer-based not peer based ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MorganCharlesT (talk • contribs) 2007-06-06T06:08:06

Respect

- It's horrible to demand respect. You must earn respect if you want it, even if they are five times as younger. 67.100.255.246 04:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree completely, these days people seem to think that just because someone is family, or holds some positon higher than them (authority) that they instantly deserve respect and those that are these things instantly expect it. An example that everybody knows is that of the teacher. A sad teacher believes that just because they are a teacher that they deserve respect from their pupils, and in this society that seems to be the case most often. I should know, I was one of the exceptions to this rule; I openly defied my teachers (and anyone else) when I didn't agree with them.24.118.227.213 05:58, 28 September 2007 (UTC) ... I think respect has to be a mutual thing. People earn respect by first respecting others. Especially in the teacher-student context, the student respects the teacher by not talking in class or misbehaving, in turn the teacher will also respect the student as someone who's willing to learn. If you are talking about the basis of 'punishments' meted out by teachers on students, I'm sure there is a reasonable explanation for the teacher to carry them out. This then comes under school discipline and it doesn't mean that the teacher does not respect the child as a person or as a student of the school. In fact, the teacher respects him enough to want to teach him. If a teacher does not bother about what the student does, for example whether he does his work or not, then the teacher does not respect the student at all, by not teaching him or instilling values that are right. If you on the other hand, are talking about a certain conflict in opinions on a subject matter, and if your teachers never wanted to hear a second opinion on it(which i highly doubt so) then yes, you are right to say these people do not have respect for the students they are teaching.

Mutual respect goes the same for race, religion, gender, status, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.24.97.8 (talk) 17:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Optimism

Explain virtues from their positive side, keep the false interpetation very briefly. If you want to learn about virtues, then you have to understand hypocrisy better. Every virtue can become a vice, but virtues indeed remain virtues when used with excellence.

Explain virtues for their good meaning.

Sincerely, Phalanx Pursos —Preceding comment was added at 00:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

The lead: "It is hard to define"

This doesn't seem a particularly useful lead:

• "Respect: It is hard to define" - not what I expect from an encyclopedia...
• Starts of with an assertion that it's one of the most important attributes for society. Surely a matter of opinion - and shouldn't be the first sentence anyway, as this does not define the word.
• Gives the broadest definition, but no other definitions.

I know the word is hard to define, but the usual way to deal with this is to get a bunch of definitions from references, and include the various definitions in the lead. Mdwh (talk) 18:38, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

rewrite

This article is awful in every way. The street gangs section is laughable. It clearly needs to be entirely rewritten. 152.7.57.14 (talk) 21:28, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I second the motion (fourth, actually). A complete rewrite of this inept high school book report is needed. I'm not usually brutal with my comments, but this is simply the worst I've ever seen. A Wikipedia page written by a ten year old is a really bad idea. Someone please completely delete this, and point it at a intelligently written dictionary page. 192.12.184.2 (talk) 18:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I fifth the motion, and I have submitted this article to the WikiProject Philosophy for reassessment. @grog_beta (talk) 07:14, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

What is "poop and noun affixes?" Did someone vandal this?

It now reads: "Human languages typically portray grammatical distinctions to the listener between honorific and colloquial language. These distinctions may be grammatically encoded by a regular system of poop and noun affixes." Should the word poop be in there? Do you talk a certain way, and then shit all over the person? Dream Focus (talk) 14:11, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, it was vandalism. Korny O'Near (talk) 15:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Removed Vandalism 3/9/08

Witty yes, but alas it needs to go. The following text was pulled:

Respect is the label larval hominids use to indicate that they approve of a given course of behaviour, often verbal. This expression is often used thereby to indicate displeasure at a given course of verbal conduct, as, for example, when a larval hominid is told he is a larval hominid, he will often replicate not as against the fact stated but that the stating of that fact is not indicative of sufficient "respect." As such, respect is the lever by which larval hominids control their superiors, who are typically aware that what the larvals call respectful behaviour is merely behaviour that satisfies their own mundane, temporal expectations. Further, the attentive reader will see how "respect" is used as a subterfuge that distracts from important issues, to wit the appaulingly bad customary behaviours of larval hominids. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.148.12.166 (talk) 23:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

respect

it means is another word for listing and paying attention to what the speaker is saying.

This article needs major work

This is written as almost a stub, without any suggestion that respect is a term than varies in definition by different cultures of the world. There is so much more here, from the psychological view point of seeking respect as a factor of age, gender, and socioeconomic influences, to traditions and expectations of different cultures throughout the world. For a hypothetical example, It is considered a sign of respect to do X during Y in Z culture/country. And the differences between respect earned, respect given, and how the term is abused in modern society. -- cipher_nemo (talk) 16:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Talk but no Action on Article

I wonder if so much info on this page needs to be retained. It has grown longer than the original article. 78.149.115.72 (talk) 07:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk + Action on Article

This content used to be on the page, but I removed it last night. I'm putting it here so it doesn't get lost. The picture seems too similar to the one of Reagan, so I thought I would substitute something from another culture. A picture of a Japanese person bowing would be even better, if someone can dig one up. The content on gang violence strikes me as giving undue weight to the topic, but I can't really justify this very well. -SpaceMoose (talk) 16:56, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Ship's Navigator Lt. renders honors to the American national anthem during the commissioning ceremony for the littoral combat ship USS Freedom.

Crime

Some organized crime syndicates, both real and fictional, are based on respect. Underlings are obligated to show "respect" for the bosses. There are many cases in which perceived disrespect has led to murder and other violence.

Disrespect

Disrespect can be shown in a number of ways, such as shoe throwing or refusing to be polite. This is often abbreviated as "diss" among those who use slang.