Talk:GeoCities

FTP section

I don't believe that the FTP section belongs in an encyclopedia article. In particular, I don't believe that the advertising for a particular ad-removal service belongs in here. I am ALL for ad-removal. Which is why to be consistent I am all for removing people's ads from Wikipedia. Jdavidb 13:49, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Abuse by spammers

I wonder if there should not be a section on the abuse of GeoCities accounts by spammers in this article. I don't know about anybody else, but my primary exposure to GeoCites now-a-days is as a host for spamvertised crap. N0YKG 15:49, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

First?

I had a website way back when it was called "GeoPages". The only freebie alternative I recall was one called "Look Up". Was this one the first? --Billpg 12:41, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Warn people?

Should we warn people that Geocities isn't a very good host and there are better ones? Should we offer advice in wikipedia?

We can't offer advice as we have to remain neutral. --File:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 04:52, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

be bold dogma mandates offering advice as long as appropriate weasel words are used, eg some critics charge... etc

See WP:NPOV. --lE☺N2323 16:36, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Warn people?

hmmm, giving advice isn't neutral. I guess we shouldn't. Zhanster 00:23, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, giving advice in the "you should" form is not okay, but... if any well-sourced statements regarding GeoCities' functionality or lack thereof were to convince people to use or not to use GeoCities, well that couldn't be helped. Shinobu (talk) 14:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

AOL/Geocities hate

This had nothing to do with pre-1990s internet users, the section is heavily biased. Not to mention I'm not sure The reputation has largely faded now, as it was mostly dependent upon the opinions of older internet users, whom became more and more of a minority after the late 1990s. is accurate, if anything I've only seen Geocities mocked increasingly over the past 6 years Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 20:45, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

• I also disagree with the validity of the 'faded reputation' statement; it sounds like it is based upon anecdotal evidence. GeoCities was -- and still is, to the best of my knowledge, known for two things: free, limited web hosting and an overwhelming number of amateurish web pages. A mention of GeoCities to any web developer who has been around for a few years will likely trigger a conversation about horrendous web design, abuse of the <BLINK> tag and animated GIFs galore. --cdjaco 18:05, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Suburbs

Could someone please mention that the old geocities neighbourhoods were divided into suburbs, too? When the neighbourhoods became full, they started to add suburbs to the neighbourhood. EG: http://www.geocities.com/neighbourhood/1234 and then http://www.geocities.com/neighbourhood/suburb/1234

Second that.

I've removed 'Broadway', since it was there at launch but never used for user accounts, and also added ResearchTriangle because that one was added later but used extensively.

If someone wants the full list of active geocities neighbourhoods for Wikipedia use please contact me via j@ww.com

see

 http://www.reocities.com/ 

For more information about all this.

best regards,

   Jacques Mattheij

77.165.209.212 (talk) 21:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Reputation

The reputation section is all total POV and if it isn't referenced I see no reason to keep it in the article. - Mjg0503 03:18, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the section - Mjg0503 15:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

spam

since the website is free we're at the mercy of geocities and ther ads and spam mine is new and when i show it off an ad show up

p.s. should i add my site to the list

Category for Bubble Buyout Boondoggles?

Seems like Geocities 3.6 billion $ buyout by Yahoo has to rank up there as one of the biggest boondoggles of the dot com bubble. Is there some appropriate category for this? Is there any information as to how much Yahoo lost on the deal?

I guess this is probably the closest: Dot-com_company#List_of_well-known_dot-bombs. Not sure it deserves to be split into a seperate section though Robin (talk) 15:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Another topic for the article: what is the present 2007 state of Geocities, is it widely used or hardly used?

Another topic for the article: Google appears not to index it, why is this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.202.248.81 (talk) 01:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Litigation section

The litigation section is unreferenced. If this were a BLP, it would be deleted. What about a corporation? Shouldn't its reputation matter?

An anon removed half the section. I put it back as a default, but I see where he might be coming from. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 18:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

History 4th paragraph

Could be clearer. Refers to initial offering price then however it was bought for some $3 billion odd. Would need to know what the price was compared to IPO or drop the however. 18:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Bandwith limits on free accounts

I added some info about the introduction of bandwith limits to GeoCities free accounts because I think it was an important cause of the loss of popularity of the GeoCities pages and hosting services. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginta suou (talk • contribs) 03:51, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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GEOCITIES HAS DIED

Today geocities has lost all of the pages that were on their servers. Unless you up-dated your pages yesterday, today all of them will have gone. They have changed their log-in details and I have lost 10 years work in 24 hours. That wasn't enough time to save everything and transfer it to another server, and anyway they didn't give any of us any notice. Geocities has changed and left behind hundreds of website builders now without sites. 82.25.230.19 (talk) 09:56, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

My two small websites were not lost--I didn't even know there was a problemJimtitus (talk) 12:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Back to Reputation

I added two sentences about the fact that some organizations such as Wikipedia block or discourage access to Geocities. (I know first hand because a link I had added to the Glenn Dale Citizens Association in an article about Glenn Dale, Maryland was automatically deleted with a note explaining that the policy is to delete links to Geocities.) I was not sure how to reference that policy, the note linked me to this page. I'm assuming there is something better than linking to explanation that was inserted into the jimtitus page. Jimtitus (talk) 12:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

And the reasons I reverted that statement were:

1. It was unsourced original research.
2. Wikipedia doesn't have a policy of "blocking or removing links to Geocities pages". Rather it has a policy on reliable sources which the majority of geocities sites fail. Any person can publish anything they like (within Yahoo's ToS) on a Geocities site with no proof that it is true. However, if a website exhibits academic/journalistic rigour and is fully referenced to reliable/peer-reviewed sources, but just happens to be hosted on Geocities, then a link/reference is fine.

dramatic (talk) 00:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Community Leaders

It surprises me that CL's are only mentioned passingly in one sentance... similar to AOL, we did a lot of work back in the day. After Geo went public, they gave us all 10 shares of stock, for a handsome profit. Granted, as mentioned in the article we all rebelled over the TOS. But I would think if the AOL ones can get a mention... (don't know if this was in a previous version. A wave of nostaliga hit me today... was a CL/Co-Liaison/Forum Monitor/Mentor back then). mysticalone27 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 23:20, 21 January 2009 (UTC).

Template:Geocities Heartland suburb Archive nav box

This nav box consists only of external links to Archive.org pages. I have moved it from the middle of the article to the nav box area under external links. I am not sure that it complies with policy on external links, particularly "Long lists of links are not acceptable" and would like to get some other editor input as to whether it should be retained or deleted. - Ahunt (talk) 11:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

In clicking through the links in this box they are all broken links - the archives often contain copies of the pages, but then the pages are just a field of broken links. I really don't see the point to this nav box. - Ahunt (talk) 14:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Lacking any explanation of the utility of a nav box of dead-end external links I will remove it from the article. I won't, however, nominate the nav box template for deletion yet, in case it can be adapted for fixed up and reused. - Ahunt (talk) 12:09, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Not closed yet!

I realize that all the Yahoo published information said that GeoCities websites would be deleted on 26 Oct 09 and the article reflects that, but here it is the 27th and the Geocities websites are still up, like this one. Does anyone have any information on this? The main problem is that the article now indicates that GeoCities is past tense, but it isn't and is therefore inaccurate. - Ahunt (talk) 12:54, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

You are correct that most, or perhaps all, GeoCities sites are still up. It is not all that surprising to me, as these sort of things rarely happen "on time." Most likely it will just start disappearing at some random time in the near future (when someone hits the delete button). --ThaddeusB (talk) 14:54, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

And if it takes weeks or months, Wikipedia would still use past tense because that's what Yahoo! decided to say? Wikipedia should reflect the present, not the "soon future according to press releases". -82.80.27.94 (talk) 17:34, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

It does present a problem as the article isn't accurate. I shall add a note to the article, which can be removed when they do come down. I just checked and my sites are still up! - Ahunt (talk) 18:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Looks like the websites are all gone now and the text has been amended to reflect that! - Ahunt (talk) 20:53, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

That's not correct, yes, a large number of the sites is offline already (you get a 410) but I'm still running 300 crawlers and retrieving plenty of content. 77.165.209.212 (talk) 05:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

XKCD tribute

I have re-added the line about the XKCD tribute, which was removed by Lint of Death, without explanation. I don't want to cause an edit war, but I do think that the fact that Randall Munroe chose to change the XKCD homepage so drastically and meticulously for the closure of GeoCities says something valuable about the prominence of GeoCities' role on the Internet and its legacy in Internet culture. If you disagree (and/or remove it again) please discuss/justify it here. Brad Gibbons (talk) 04:42, 28 October 2009 (UTC)