User talk:Nomoskedasticity

Hello Nomoskedasticity,

Thank you for your message on my user page. I am regular user of wikipedia, and a very occasional contributor - usually an editor of minor points of language which I feel offer a biased perspective. I can offer more references for the article you have suggested for deletion.

I do find discussion around this issue interesting. Within a western cultural context Calligraphy is often considered an obscure cultural practice. It lacks the status the discipline has in East Asian or Near Eastern traditions. I can understand the suggestion that a calligrapher from northern Canada might be notable compounds the issue.

We are dealing with a practices and locations on the periphery.

I look forward to seeing how this issue is resolved and how the article is altered. I would also value more of your comments on the discussion page. Thank you for your interest in this article.

Kindly,

Bembo Bold

"European University" wikilinks

Hello,

Thank you very much for your message on my user page.

Let me explain the rational that I use by adding the section to the EUs pages.

First, please note, that by adding the links I did not refer to the direct connection between the EUs. The objective was to faciliate search of other universities bearing the name European. That's why the name of the section "See also" (but not, e.g., "Direct connections" or similar). From my own experience of communicating in the international academic arena with students from at least three of the EUs mentioned, the confusion as for the location is often caused by the presence of the word "European" in the name. Thus, thinking of the use of the wikipages by potential applicants/people interested, it makes perfect sense to add the section.

If you have doubts, please have a look at a similar section at the University of Michigan wikipage (featured article btw) which bears links to University of Michigan-Flint and University of Michigan–Dearborn, although there is no direct "connection" between the three.

Second, there is, however, an important not visible side where connection between the EUs is more obvious. This is funding sources. Take for example CEU and EUSPb - both were established with the general and major contribution by George Soros. Also EUI and EUSPb are both funded with reources of the European Commission (its TACIS programme in the case of the latter).

Finally, the connection between the universities is their recognition by European Council, and the presence of courses taught not only in the official language of the country of origin, but also in English. This is an important edge to the issue, and is the case of the EU of Lefke too. For example, it is a member of such a body as, European Council for Business Education (ECBE). It is also reconginsed/accredited by IUAA, WAUC, etc.

Thus, you certainly are free to remove the "see also" section on all "European" university pages. However, please, in case you decide to do that, then do so sonsistently: that is delete the "See also" section across all of the E. uni pages (last time somehow you left the EUSPb page unedited).

Yours sincerely,

Maxim Bouev Maxim Bouev 13:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Filich (talk • contribs)

...to follow up:

Other analogies I thought about were University of London (with its numerous colleges) and University of California (with its numerous campuses). Although in these two cases all the separate consituent Unis are sub-parts of one overruling body in each respective country.

maybe it makes sense to call the section differently: "Pages of otehr European universities" or smth like that?

Regards, Maxim Bouev 13:26, 26 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Filich (talk • contribs)

But this is the point: the word European simply doesn't mean anything here. Unlike the Michigan case, where they are all institutions run by one state. And a great many universities might be recognized by the "European Council" but not use the word European in their official name. Really, you're making too much of the use of that word in institution names. The European University Institute and the European University of Lefke have almost nothing to do with one another, as far as I know. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 13:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Omrganews, and I can't find other place to contact with you. Some one from competition add info about European University is Unaccredited and thats is a blasphemy and try to create a negative impression of the institutions, the article was neutral without intetion of ad, only facts and history and informations like a lot of university example, but some one wrote negative things and I only trying to keep neutral like before. What the problem of that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omrganews (talk • contribs) 09:26, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

First things first: what is your association with European University. Do you work for them or study there? Nomoskedasticity (talk) 09:28, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I work with them, but our intention was add and articles not create an ad, but we frequently have 2 or 3 competition that usually changes the article for bad things, this was the reason that I modified the content because we found loss of prestige content. Let me know what is the problem, because I not understand of all. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omrganews (talk • contribs) 09:37, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. WP:COI notice placed. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 09:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, I read the FAQ/Organizations article and I create a discussion topic in the article, I hope you could read and give me your feedback about if its correct. Omrganews (talk—Preceding undated comment added 10:29, 1 September 2009 (UTC).

Dear Nomo,

My name is Carl Craen. I m an Alumni of the European University Barcelona and working for EU.

I tried to give you the proof of the European University Status (accreditations, recognitions, memberships and candidate status of accreditation with ACBSP in the United States.) but the information was removed.

European University is a Swiss based business School with an official authorization to operate by the Canton of Geneva in Switzerland. We have also a branch in The Hague in Holland who is officially recognized and accredited by the Dutch government. The European University group went through a professional American Accreditation and is in the final stage with ACBSP Association of Collegiate Business Schools and Programs. Please consult their website.

I can provide you all the official documents and links if you want. But please help me to rectify the status of EU on Wikipedia. A lot of former employees (some of them started their own school) , former co-workers etc.. are trying to damage the Image of EU in saying that we are not allowed to operate and are not accredited. We have a network of more than 15 campuses world wide and yes we closed 2 or 3 campuses during the last 10 years due to restructuring and this created some enemies etc...

So please how can I proceed in this case. I would really appreciate you help

Many thanks

Carl--Orman1 (talk) 12:51, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

This query needs to go to the talk page: Talk:European_University. As you will see there, however, [this is not academic accreditation, instead merely a business license. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 12:55, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

This is our license from the public department in Geneva that allows EU to offer business degrees. Can you please check also the accreditation documents from the Dutch state. And our Candidate Status with ACBSP.

By the way IMD in Lausanne has exactly the same status that we have in Switzerland and it is one of the world's leading business schools. Is IMD recognized by the swiss state?

Please try to help me with issue

Thanks a lot Carl--Orman1 (talk) 13:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Please read academic accreditation. And please take these queries to the talk page indicated above. I will not reply to further messages left here about this issue. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Your inquiry

Regarding your inquiry [1], the prior account was Smee. Cirt (talk) 17:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

It is no secret that 2+ years ago, when he edited as Smee, Cirt was an edit warrior. His detractors claim he changed usernames to hide that history. Jimbo Wales and I were in contact with him at the time, and the actual reason behind several months' wikibreak and a name change was personal security and the risk of real world harassment. Since his return Cirt has made the most remarkable reform I have witnessed in four years as a Wikipedian: he has become a prolific featured content contributor, is Wikipedia's featured portal director, and has been promoted to administrator on five Wikimedia sites including this one. Cirt has also become an OTRS volunteer and was recently reelected to the arbitration committee at Wikinews. During the recent Scientology arbitration his actions were heavily scrutinized and the Committee concluded no wrongdoing since 2007. Durova³⁰⁶ 17:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for both replies. I wasn't here two years ago; anyway I have never seen anything in Cirt's edits that would make me dissent from Durova's assessment. I suppose the question is whether other editors have reformed in similar measure, e.g. Spacefarer after being blocked for sockpuppets; I don't see Spacefarer's recent contributions to the LE talk page as disruptive. Cirt, I do think it is very slightly disingenuous to link Spacefarer to the Eastwaybay case (as here) when the CU finding there was that they were unrelated. In any event it's possible that the topic ban is overkill given that things have been pretty calm on LE recently compared to older history (I don't know the situation on other related articles). Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:10, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

The Eastwaybay case was linked to because that was where checkusers made the confirmed finding that Spacefarer had socked. Spacefarer's contributions to this topic and edits to the article itself are focused on removing criticism of the company. Cirt (talk) 18:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I see that former point now. And looking at Spacefarer's history, I think that editor is being disingenuous in trying to explain away the connection between the two accounts. Anyway, while I agree that he/she is focused on trying to remove criticism, that editor has made all of 6 edits in 2009, none of them disruptive. (I can see that Cirt reverted the ones in July to the litigation article, properly in my view.) So I guess my main point is that, while that editor has not turned into an active productive contributor, I'm not sure that recent activity justifies a topic ban. Normal vigilance on the articles might suffice. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:50, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

To answer your question

You asked on the discussion on the AN whether I am, or have ever been, involved in assisting for Landmark Education. I don't think it has any bearing on my contributions to Wikipedia, but I have no objection to giving you a direct answer. Some years ago I coached on several of Landmark's communications courses, which is a form of assisting. It involved working with four or five of the course participants and supporting them in healing rifts and misunderstandings with people in their lives. As stated on my user page, my only relationship with the company is as a broadly satisfied customer. It is several years since I did any of their courses (or any assisting) and I have no plans to do so, but I don't rule out the possibility that I might at some time in the future.

To re-iterate what I have also said elsewhere, my intention in editing that article or its talk page is to have it be a fair, honest, well-written piece in accordance with Wikipedia policies.

Thank you for your evident commitment to be straightforward and fair.

You plainly do have some viewpoint or opinion on Landmark yourself - do you mind if I ask you to declare it, and maybe say something about the experience that formed it? Thanks. DaveApter (talk) 18:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I attended the Forum many years ago -- liked some of it, didn't like other parts. So my opinions are mixed and not very strong. In general I object to the use of Wikipedia by external parties to further their interests (I got started on Wikipedia at the Oxford Round Table page). It might sound like that attitude guides my edits on the LE page -- but I don't feel I have the same degree of confidence (in comparison to ORT) that that is the right way to describe the edits some people make. So I simply try to approach it in what ought to be the normal way: when someone adds to the page in ways that satisfy V and RS, I'm likely to object when someone tries to remove it, especially as part of a pattern of edits that add up to an agenda. This is why I insisted on including the "accusations of cult" sentence even though I don't really agree that LE is a cult.

You might want to be aware of this. I have undone it; not sure what will happen next and I don't intend to repeat my own edit there. regards, Nomoskedasticity (talk) 20:24, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Visiting the Philippines

Hi Nom, You have been everywhere, except the Philippines. Why don't you visit the Philippines? See for yourself a number of significant but underresearched topics in sociology in this country of some 7,100 islands. 122.3.211.251 (talk) 00:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Dieter Korn

Hi Nomoskedasticity, what shoul be included in the Dieter Korn article to establish notability for a paleontologist? You note in your edit summary that "notability not established here, and I don't see it in google scholar or news" the vast majority of paleontologists dont amke the news as the fields that are working in are not considered interesting to the media. as for scholar a search for "Dieter Korn" turns up 14,900 hits of which the first 5 pages are all papers authored/coauthored by Dr. Korn.--Kevmin (talk) 20:54, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, the answer to your question is: reliable sources, as against his own web site and cv. I'm sure he's done good research, but one's own publications don't count as sources or evidence of notability. And you only get that many hits if you don't use quotes for the search terms: if you actually search for "Dieter Korn" on GS you get 150. Slim pickings, I'm afraid. But I'd be pleased if you can find more. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 21:29, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Article (BLP) For Deletion

Thank you for your comment concerning the BLP nominated for Deletion Ray Joseph Cormier. Since the Afd tag was placed on the article, the 3rd attempt to have it expunged by the same individual, according to Wikipedia traffic statistics, over 53 different Wikipedians looked at it, and only you made a comment. Being the subject of the BLP, I commented after yours. Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 02:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

• Naturally having an interest in how the discussion goes, I´m not sure I know how to interpret the modification of your initial comment? Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 06:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

• Now I See! I am assuming you are asking others to read the talk page concerning the BLP before coming to a hasty opinion. Thank you. Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 06:05, 30 October 2009 (UTC)