Talk:America's Next Top Model season 13

Call-out order table

Why is it deleted? I tried undoing the deletion but it says that in coflicts with some other edits. somebody please restore it. Arthurfung (talk) 10:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Because, a registered user vandalized and removed the call-out order and I restored it back. ApprenticeFan ^{talk contribs} 11:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Laura

Laura's last name is Kirkpatrick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.135.197 (talk) 18:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

makeovers (spoilers highlight to see).. erin.ice blonde. britanny...dark blonde sundai..graduated bob.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamalshh881 (talk • contribs) 17:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC) Here's a look at some of the girls: http://www.wgntv.com/shows/cw/americasnexttopmodel/wpix-antm13modelvisit,0,7660269.photogallery

3RD EPISODE

it premieres the 16th..not the 9th —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.43.193.105 (talk) 20:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Lulu was the one that said she doesn't pay attention to photographers NOT Ashley

Summary Table

Summary: Somebody that is not this site's moderator keeps' updating the elimination bracket/table before the episode even airs and possibly show the wrong Tyra call out order. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.216.153.79 (talk) 00:52, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Contestants

I personally think that because we know the contestants' heights from the websites this year that we should get a table like the one Australia's Next Top Model, Cycle 5. It would really spice things up, don't you think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.10.116 (talk) 16:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

It would be nice except that it is AusNTM, not ANTM. If you want to make a table, in order to make it coherent with the rest of the articles, I suggest the same be done for all 13 cycles as well, and not just Cycle 13.ZephyrWind (talk) 01:29, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree with ZephyrWind ... MistyWillows ^talk 03:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

A height table would be good for this season, even if it isn't in the others, because this season is focusing on the heights of the contestants. To have the heights in this article would not be weird, even if we do not have the heights in the other articles. Whether we add heights to the others or not, I vote we put heights into this one. Diemunkiesdie (talk) 02:04, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get started this weekend. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.10.116 (talk) 22:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Number

Although Amber withdrew, she is still a contestant of this cycle. That means there are 15 girls. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.22.189.112 (talk) 05:02, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree. She still should be included on the list of contestants on this page as well as the official one. Coinboybrian (talk) 19:29, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, there a logical flaw in that argument. By what standard do you mean "she is still a contestant of this cycle"? If you say since she was called initially to be finalist in the house, then it's not true because in the end she wasn't a finalist anyway, so it's still 14. We need a standard to gauge the no. of contestants, and I suggest that as being the no. of girls who moved into the house as the MAIN cast. I think it would be different if Amber quit at let's say, the makeovers. So I say keep it as 14, or run the fear of ambiguity. ZephyrWind (talk) 07:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't think moving into the house is a reasonable criteria, since Amber does appear in the elimination table, she should be included, ... MistyWillows ^talk 02:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Sorry I shall make myself clearer. I also posted this on the "List of ANTM contestants" discussion page (it's just my opinion, still, at the end of the day)

I feel that Amber shouldn't be an official contestant simply because:

• She never made it into the house to start the main competition, just like all the semi-finalists
• She never had a single promotional photograph taken, and did not appear in any Cycle 13 promotional material
• Her bio isn't even mentioned (even slightly) on the CW website
• She quit (not even eliminated) before the start of the main competition, just like all the other semi-finalists
  

How can then can she be considered an "official" contestant? Food for thought, would the same situation arise if Amber had quit on the spot right after her name was called? What if six girls quit and Tyra called back another six girls? Then the no. of "official" contestants would increase to 20?ZephyrWind (talk)

The contestant was entered as replacement into the competition, but was eliminated

I think it should say AND was eliminated. She was entered as a replacement, then was eliminated later. 86.172.30.65 (talk) 11:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Sourcing

How is an unverifiable post in a public online forum's spoiler thread considered credible sourcing for an encyclopedia entry? Realistically, given the number of NDAs and other contractual binders in place surrounding not-yet-broadcast episodes of reality shows, disclosure by an individual so bound (which would be the only way such information could be known for certain), even if the information turns out to be correct eventually, it's nothing more than speculative until the episode's airdate. As Wikipedia maintains, content must be VERIFIABLE. 70.124.89.116 (talk) 21:37, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Immunity

The colour for immunity may be new to ANTM, but actually, the same thing happened in this years Britains Next Top Model. The colour used there was lightgreen, so I changed it here from yellow to lightgreen. :) (Kyleofark (talk) 17:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC))

This is inconsistent with the earlier consensus to use white on dark colors for uncommon events, and black on light colors for common events ... MistyWillows ^talk 09:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I think it's like in AusNTM, Cycle 4 & 5. Brittany was immune from elimination and won an extra prize, so do Alyce and Franky. 58.186.232.247 (talk) 04:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC).

Not really, there's a slight difference. ALyce and Franky won the reward challenge and won immunity; Brittany won immunity and was given a reward. ZephyrWind (talk) 12:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

But it's like Heather in cycle 9, she also received an additional reward. TanPhat Nguyen ^{talk- -contrb} 11:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC).

Yup, I've added it in at the description at the bottom of the table that she won an extra reward. ZephyrWind (talk) 13:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Makeovers

Hey you gonna add the makeovers this cycle? I have them on my ANTM fansite page so if you'd like. I can add that part for you. I'd love to do that!

Ash —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mntm2009 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I believe the consensus was to not include makeovers due to POV issues. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:17, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Well then I can understand that. Thanks!

Ash —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mntm2009 (talk • contribs) 06:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Brittany's first call-out & Joint First-Callout

I'm sorry, but I can't understand why Brittany is listed as having a first call-out this week, while Tyra stated that the entire group was called first. I don't remember anyone saying that Brittany was the best of the team. If the judges picked one girl out of the three, the first call-out would probably go to Rae, after hearing all the positive feedback she received.

The call-out order should be Rae - Brittany - Jennifer since Tyra quite clearly said that was the order of who did the best. StupidityxLEAK (talk) 22:56, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the Rae - Brittany - Jennifer, as well as the single box, but how do we show that Rae and Jennifer won the challenge? God, it seems that Tyra really wants to complicate this page, haha. Coinboybrian (talk) 00:14, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Simply, because they are all jointly called first, we shall denote them as such. It doesn't matter who did better because at the end of the day, they are all counted as a first call-out, whether we like it or not. ZephyrWind (talk) 03:33, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

The table mentioned Tyra's Call-Out Order, not Tyra's First Call-Out. Therefore, it should still be Brit-Rae-Jen eventhough Rae was deemed the best of the group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.22.174.63 (talk) 02:39, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

OK I added in a note under the table to clarify everything. Hopefully it does haha. ZephyrWind (talk) 09:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Can't the cells be merged so it says "Brittany & Jennifer & Rae" like the Rebecca/Tiffany box in Cycle 4? 139.184.30.132 (talk) 14:25, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

That would be the logical thing to do, except Rae and Jennifer both won the challenge and there would be no way to indicate that. Coinboybrian (talk) 14:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

The order should be Brittany, Rae and Jennifer, because even though Rae did the best, Tyra called them with Brittany first, Rae second and Jennifer third 68.147.245.53 (talk) 02:00, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I feel it should be Rae, Brittany and Jennifer. The descriptor at the bottom explains it quite well. Anyways, I feel that we should NOT merge the three cells into one because it has no way of showing Rae and Jen's reward wins that episode. It is similar to Cycle 4's double elimination of Rebecca & Tiffany, Cycle 5's non-elimination of Jayla & Nicole, and Cycle 10's Aimee/Amis audition call-out. They all had the same placements that episode but their cells weren't merged together. ZephyrWind (talk) 13:38, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Please!!No Spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously! I just read that Nicole gets eliminated next then, Kara, then Erin!! stop! I really hope that not true! Please let it not be true! And how can anyone know that right? I mean it had no sources! Just please no spoilers or fake spoilers or whatever.

Those spoilers are vandalism, and should not be believed. The people who post them are purposely giving misinformation. ... MistyWillows ^talk 18:21, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

are the call-out order true? i want laura to win but what the?? where are your sources for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eagerbeaver1620 (talk • contribs) 04:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Rae

Last name, Weisz. On episode 6 column of the table, she must be first, even though it is a group call-out, "Rae killed the two of 'em (brit and jen) in this picture (Cirque du Soleil - theme)." She should be first and not Brittany. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eagerbeaver1620 (talk • contribs) 10:16, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

About Whadaheck's edits

First, the edits of Whadaheck (talk · contribs) are not funny when Lisa is not in the finals in the casting week. I'm really sure that his edit making an edit war. I guess to revert the better version to ZephyrWind's edit.

From ANTM talk page archive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:America%27s_Next_Top_Model/Archive_4#Added_color_to_table

Came from Misty Willows (talk · contribs):

There is a new situation of "The contestant was entered as replacement into the competition, but was eliminated" this cycle. The first couple of colors used for this were ipreviously used colors, that would cause a conflict with the established color scheme. i chose chocolate because it was unique to the table and fit the established scheme.

  The contestant was entered as replacement into the competition, but was eliminated

Does anyone have an objection to this?

That the green color box is usually used for when a semi-finalist has made it into the finals during casting week. ApprenticeFan ^{talk contribs} 16:34, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Lisa being "entered into the competition as replacement" and denoted as dark green in the first episode is wrong simply because she was never called, and this is a CALL-OUT table. ZephyrWind (talk) 01:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

None of the eliminated girls, nor Tessa and Giselle in the first part of the first episode of cycle one were called. So your point is moot. I'm changing it back to green, as chocolate isn't even on the talk page, nor is the immunity color. Discuss first, add the color later.--Whadaheck (talk) 16:39, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

hu? they were not called because they were not among the original semifinalists. as the green color says it they were spotted at a seperate audition and later added to the cast. out of the top 20 only 8 girls where chosen in episode 1 from Cycle 1. Shameless (talk) 00:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Whadaheck (talk · contribs) did this again. Could you restore it back? You may request an admin to block Whadaheck indefinitely? ApprenticeFan ^{talk contribs} 01:56, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I fixed it and put a warning on whadaheck's talk page. Even though theres enough of a pattern to suggest blocking, he hasn't been sufficiently warned. Next time, you can put a warning on his talk page, I don't have any special powers that you don't have ... Misty Willows ^talk 10:33, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

OK, I added a section about on the user's unfair editing on WP:ANI. ApprenticeFan ^{talk contribs} 11:10, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Double elimination episode 11

Where are people getting this from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.149.53.110 (talk) 03:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Erm, the episode preview? ZephyrWind (talk) 12:44, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

No need to be a smartass idiot, I was just asking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.149.62.17 (talk • contribs)

No need to be a dumbass idiot, I was just replying a question. YOUR qeustion.ZephyrWind (talk) 14:29, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Should the next week's episode bottom two double elimination like Cycle 4? In Australia's Next Top Model, there is bottom three and Britain's Next Top Model never having a bottom three. ApprenticeFan ^{talk contribs} 03:09, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I think we should wait for the episode, to see how they do it, and make the change afterwards. ... Misty Willows ^talk 08:53, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Erin and Jennifer were eliminated together. 113.22.190.124 (talk) 14:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC).

Someone please take off the spoilers!!

I was scrolling down the page, and noticed the boxes were filled when they aren't suppose to be yet. I only saw Erin getting eliminated on Episode 12, but I scrolled back up super fast. So I didn't see the rest. But please take them off!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.237.144.1 (talk) 23:24, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

True, someone has again vandalized and is continually doing so, I shall remove them shortly, and please someone give this guy a warning or something.--Gustav Ulsh Iler (talk) 03:58, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I saw the boxes gone but there were still spoilers. Near the bottom of the page, it shows that Erin and Jennifer have been eliminated. Is this spoiler information at all reliable? :S —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whiteserenity (talk • contribs) 10:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Too many Greens

There are too many greens, they are confusing, should be changed to other colours like yellow or orange or any other colour would do.--Gustav Ulsh Iler (talk) 04:10, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Vocabulary

It's a great word, but can something else be substituted for "castigated"? It's been used so many times it's all I notice when I read through the article now! How about: reprimand, rebuke, admonish, chastise, chide, censure, upbraid, reprove, reproach, scold, berate, take to task, lambaste. Otherwise, the contributors are doing a great job!!Mllefantine (talk) 03:50, 13 November 2009 (UTC)