Talk:Internet Leaks

Skipper Dan and Disneyland

I know there's a lot of things that point to the suggestion that the singer is working at Disneyland (he lives in close proximity, and that he mentions "Adventure land" which I know is an area of Disneyland, but that's not enough to assure that it he is working at that park, by the lyrics alone. I know that if you add in the video which has mouse-earred balloons and the like the presumption can be made, but unless the lyrics specifically state this, it is original research to make that final leap of logic. Now, if there are sources that support this jump, then that's fine, but we can't make that leap. --MASEM (t) 12:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Does the fact that the lyrics include parts of the script taken directly from DL's Jungle Cruise help in any way? "That's an African Bull Elephant" "It's the Back Side of Water!!", etc. MrItty (talk) 15:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

It's quite possible other jungle tours at other parks use it, so it's not a unique factor of the Disneyland attraction. I know that several blogs have pointed to the Disneyland ride, but we need an RS to do that. --MASEM (t) 15:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Saying "Jungle Cruise" to me seems like a pretty specific reference to the Disney attraction, and not some generic "jungle river cruise." I would also think that "Adventureland" is a Disney-specific reference, as well as saying that the hippos have been wiggling their ears "for the last 50 years." Although it doesn't specifically mention Disneyland Park by name, it seems to be a pretty overt reference, and would be a unique factor of the Disneyland attraction. Also, as MrItty and Jasonlesliewright mentioned, the lyrics include elements pulled directly from the Jungle Cruise script, including the aforementioned "hippos wiggling their ears," and "bengal tigers can jump up to 20 feet!"

--Alyssa3467 (talk) 02:20, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I think the fact that the Music Video was commissioned and approved by Weird Al to be the official visual representation of the lyrics should be proof enough that he is referring to the Disneyland ride. If you put that with the facts that you've already mentioned (That it's in Southern California, that Adventureland is the name of a Disneyland area...the one where the Jungle Cruise is located, and the exact quotations from the Disney script are used in the lyrics).Jasonlesliewright (talk) 20:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, the hippos have been wiggling their ears for 50 years. Disneyland (and the Jungle Cruise ride) opened in 1955 (that makes for 54 years - poetic license). Lastly, his official Youtube feed has "Disneyland" as a tag to the video. I think this is enough evidence, from a reliable source (Al himself) that this is indeed about the Jungle Cruise ride at Disneyland. -- BullWikiWinkle 02:22, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

The video also includes lyrics in the info box, with "Jungle Cruise" properly capitalized and "Adventureland" as one word.

--Alyssa3467 (talk) 02:57, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm still not convinced save for the tag on the video. Given that "Adventureland" is also the name of a fiction theme park in the movie of the same name, there's no reason why it could be a fictional park he's talking of. The similarity in the age of the ride may be happenstance. Now, mind you, I'm 99% sure he's talking about Disneyland, but from a sourcing and research point of view, we just do not have that. I'm sure within a few days we'll have a source to confirm it though. --MASEM (t) 03:35, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

-- At the end of the video, the kid is wearing Mickey Mouse ears —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.187.184 (talk) 06:42, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

• Sources: [1][2]. Generally a good idea to wait for sources, rather than writing it as OR. --JN466 15:52, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

This Rolling Stone article asserts the video is "an animated send-up of Disney’s Jungle Cruise ride". Thus, saying its Dinseyland is no longer OR, and its fine to leave as is. --MASEM (t) 04:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

5th song name

I know that weirdal.wikia.com is reporting this song is called "Ringtone" but they provide no reliable source for it, and as user-generated content, it is unreliable itself. Until we have confirmation (like we have now with "CNR", this needs to remain untitled.). --MASEM (t) 20:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

We now have confirmation at Al's MySpace blog and Amazon.com Brand Eks (talk) 18:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I know that the SuperNews! ad announced the song title (and the blog confirms it) and the video, but I'm not seeing it on Amazon (as to confirm if it's a parody or what). --MASEM (t) 18:56, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Oops.. on my last edit I said it was the Amazon page... it's not. It's actually the WAY wiki page ([3]), but every time they've had an image for a song before they have turned out to be true. Also, the preview on the Amazon page for the song confirms that it's a Queen style parody. Brand Eks (talk) 19:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I see it on amazon uk (not us).

However, I'm going to say that we can't clearly ID it as a Queen parody. The first half of said clip, yes, clearly is Queen (though). However, the second half doesn't - or at least, it's really far off from being Queen if its meant to be them. Given the lyrics of the clip ("everyone hates my ring tone") there is a possibility of styles that could be used here emulating many different forms of music that are often used as annoying ringtones. On the other hand, the single's cover on the Wikia page does seem to be Queen-like, but certainly not a direct parody. We can't use the Wikia itself to assert this (they're not reliable). So, like with Skipper Dan, where pretty much everyone believes it to be a Weezer style parody, we need a reliable source to assert the style here; or at least more than the 30 second clip. --MASEM (t) 19:32, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough... we'll find out for sure on Friday the 21st. Brand Eks (talk) 19:46, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like its roughly styled after Don't Stop me Now by queen. 174.3.107.124 (talk) 01:48, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Skipper Dan style parody

According to some people who went to AlFest, Al's drummer confirmed that Skipper Dan is a style parody of Weezer: [4] Weirdojace (talk) 00:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

We need a better source than a forum posts that claims X said Y, unfortunately. --MASEM (t) 00:47, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Merging other articles

The articles for Skipper Dan, CNR, Ringtone, and possibly Craigslist all need to redirect to this page. These songs are not notable enough for their own page, and can most certainly be merged into this article. If they aren't merged soon, I will be nominating the pages for deletion. Spman (talk) 01:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Following an AfD which resulted in merge into this article, I have put a redirect on CNR and Ringtone. If anybody wants to see if there is anything in those former articles to bring over to this article, please check. Thanks. --Richhoncho (talk) 17:44, 3 November 2009 (UTC)