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'''Strongly delete''' I have no idea who this guy is but it seems like a self-proclaimed seduction expert. Not notable enough and lacking reliable sources. Guys like [[Mystery (pickup artist)|Mystery]] and [[Neil Strauss]] are well-known, but not this self-proclaimed person. [[User:Coaster7|Coaster7]] ([[User talk:Coaster7|talk]]) 04:06, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
'''Strongly delete''' I have no idea who this guy is but it seems like a self-proclaimed seduction expert. Not notable enough and lacking reliable sources. Guys like [[Mystery (pickup artist)|Mystery]] and [[Neil Strauss]] are well-known, but not this self-proclaimed person. [[User:Coaster7|Coaster7]] ([[User talk:Coaster7|talk]]) 04:06, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' I'm pretty active in the seduction community and this guys is not really well-known in the small seduction community. Like pointed above, the sources are not credible with interviews (not credible reliable source, must be at least secondary) and blogs claiming some fame. [[User:Camera123456|Camera123456]] ([[User talk:Camera123456|talk]]) 04:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' I'm pretty active in the seduction community and this guys is not really well-known in the small seduction community. Like pointed above, the sources are not credible with interviews (not credible reliable source, must be at least secondary) and blogs claiming some fame. [[User:Camera123456|Camera123456]] ([[User talk:Camera123456|talk]]) 04:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' I agree with Ray. It is unfortunate that the seduction community is on Wikipedia, but from my dabbling I have heard of this guy a lot and the sources seem fine. begrudgingly keep. Actually surprised the coverage these guys get with the independent, nbc, bbc etc. [[Special:Contributions/137.73.68.56|137.73.68.56]] ([[User talk:137.73.68.56|talk]]) 12:36, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

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Most of the sources are blogs and dead links, making it not notable enough and lacking credit for an article. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 01:41, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong Keep I have added some better references and removed some blogs. There are references on NBC, Fox News, The Independent, Channel 4, CTV, The Mirror, The Sun and AskMen. There are more references in print material such as TimeOut, ITV, FHM The Daily Express etc. would you like me to find them? I didn't think they would be as useful as they are not accessible from the internet, but I can try and dig them up. I have left on some of the blogs as they are notable blogs within the seduction community, and for the technical aspect of seduction mainstream media tends not to cover it. GrowYourGame, Seduction Chronicles and Thundercat are the blogs, and for the events I have included the reference to the event such as 21 Convention and Real Man Conference, is that an issue? I have improved the tone of this article as well, but please let me know if there are still objections to it. DRosin (talk) 10:27, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep. Very notable within seduction community, voted number 1 recently. I also can't find any dead links. Ace4545 (talk) 13:50, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sadly, keep DRosin's edits make clear that this guy does have significant coverage in normally reliable sources. RayTalk 19:40, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete He is not notable enough to be on Wikipedia. There are sources that are not considered reliable sources, like the blogs of Seduction Chronicles, Thundercat, ripped YouTube videos, Bristol Lair, and it has some dead links. It seems like Ace4545 is a sock-puppet because all his edits were as of Nov 25 in the hope saving this article. Where is the source of being #1? #1 of what? Delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Handrem (talkcontribs) 03:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly delete I have no idea who this guy is but it seems like a self-proclaimed seduction expert. Not notable enough and lacking reliable sources. Guys like Mystery and Neil Strauss are well-known, but not this self-proclaimed person. Coaster7 (talk) 04:06, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I'm pretty active in the seduction community and this guys is not really well-known in the small seduction community. Like pointed above, the sources are not credible with interviews (not credible reliable source, must be at least secondary) and blogs claiming some fame. Camera123456 (talk) 04:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I agree with Ray. It is unfortunate that the seduction community is on Wikipedia, but from my dabbling I have heard of this guy a lot and the sources seem fine. begrudgingly keep. Actually surprised the coverage these guys get with the independent, nbc, bbc etc. 137.73.68.56 (talk) 12:36, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]