Wikipedia:Featured article review/Sound film/archive1

Sound film

Review commentary

• Featured article candidates/Sound film

• Featured article review/Sound film/archive1
• Featured article review/Sound film/archive2

Notified: DCGeist, Wikipedia:WikiProject Films

Since reviewing more than one FA isn't allowed, I am nominating this particular featured article for review because of the follwing things...

• Un-referenced material.
• Lots of unnessessary images. There's images in the "Reference" section (WTF)?
• And I think that there's a prose problem as well.

So give me your thoughts on this article. GamerPro64 (talk) 02:02, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• Comment. Please add alt text to images; see Wikipedia:Alternative text for images. Eubulides (talk) 02:31, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
• Comments The article seems to fail the FA criteria for sourcing. Despite having 113 inline citations, it still has quite a bit that is not clearly reference or is unreferenced at all. The article does have formatting issues, and I agree that the number of images is overkill, as are the number of external links. Two screens worth of links?? And while the images are non-free, most are being used purely for decorative and superfluous manner. Many could be trimmed and replaced with a simple link to the Commons where they are all housed. Looking at some of the citations, I'm also a little concerned that there may be some SYNTH going on, as some of the references, like 88 and 90 seem to be pulling from a few sources to reach a final conclusion and uses non-neutral language in referring to some sources. I also can now see how such a short lead, compared to the article, is properly summarizing the article as a whole. There also appear to have been some legitimate raised concerns on the talk page over its ending at 1930, and seeming to have little contemporary history of the form, but nothing appears to have been done to address it. That would seem to indicate the article, lengthy though it is, is not comprehensive. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:31, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• File:BroadwayMelodyPoster.jpg: There seems to be some dispute about the original source and license of this poster. Hence its duplication as File:BroadwayMelodyAd.jpg. DrKiernan (talk) 15:44, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment it does not meet WP:LIST; the lists under History and Aesthetic quality should be converted into prose. Additionally, its structure is lacking; section names like The transition: Europe separate those periods in the history of the topic from the earlier history, putting it out of context. Technology should be its own level two heading. Images don't belong in the reference section, and there are way too many external links. Mm40 (talk) 12:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

FARC commentary

Suggested FA criteria concern are citations, MOS. Also note the recent change to WP:WIAFA (1c) requiring "high-quality" sources. FAQ? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 23:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Delist, referencing concerns. Cirt (talk) 23:26, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• What referencing concerns? DCGeist has begun working on the article, the FARC period lasts at least two weeks, and entering a vague "Delist" the minute a FAR moves to FARC without more specifics gives him little to work with. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:36, 1 December 2009 (UTC)