Talk:Mukkulathor

Improve the Quality

The quality of this article needs to be improved. While the article is highly informative, the style of writing isnt impressive. This, along with bad choice of vocabulary and wrong naming of sections actually decreases the quality of the article. If at all someone would help with pieces of information, we will clean up the mess. - Ravichandar84 16:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

This article lacks adequate references and in-text citations. Each and every piece of info needs to be referenced. Kindly provide website or book links-Ravichandar 05:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I dont think 'List of MLAs' satisfies notability. List of Cabinet Ministers is okay as also List of MPs to some extent.. but MLAs???? This is an issue which afflicts articles related to every ethnic group in India-Ravichandar 05:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Kshatriyas/Brahmins castes are usually associated with Aryans. Every backward caste in tamil nadu are claiming kshatriya status. Even the Kallars (thieves)! I have never seen any historic texts relating them with Kshatriyas. To be a Kshatriya, the ethnic group should have some indigenous Kshatriya origin (Suryavanshi, Chandravanshi, Agnivanshi or Nagavanshi) and also must have a martial / aristocratic / ruling history in which Brahmins did the coronation function. I have never heard of a brahmin coronation ceremony giving a thevar Kshatriya status, let alone descend from Kshatriyas. See [1]

The references are poor, citing only 2 reliable books. The rest are websites. This article needs a redo. It is obvious that this page has been written to improve the perception of the Kallars in Malaysia for political reasons. The Thevars in Malaysia in general are very backward, but their majority in population gives them an edge in elections, thus allowing an uneducated politician such as Samy Velu (Kallar) to become their leader. And also, how are the Kallars and Maravars related, other than the fact they are all Dravidians? I have never seen warriors and thieves in the same group. Only someone like Samy Velu can make people write this.--115.132.253.84 (talk) 16:09, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

post from user:115.132.253.84 is completely inappropriate. The person has refered a link on Kshatriyas wihtout any understanding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.0.105.193 (talk) 09:39, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

The link I gave shows a list of the indigenous Kshatriya clans (Suryavanshi, Chandravanshi, Agnivanshi or Nagavanshi) and their descendants. The Mukkulathors must claim one of these Aryan lineages (which is impossible), prove their martial/ruling history, and finally provide proof of a brahmin coronation function before they can call themselves Kshatriyas.

Ancient kshatriyas have spilled blood for countless of generations. They have provided lavish gold offerings for the brahmins for coronation ceremonies just to gain Kshatriyahood and the sacred thread. How can the Mukkulathors so easily call themselves Kshatriyas? Please provide proper argument instead of just calling me inappropriate, because claiming kshatriyahood is the one which is inappropriate and an insult to the real Kshatriyas.--115.134.83.48 (talk) 16:33, 28 December 2009 (UTC)