Talk:Bundjalung people

Concerns

The 2007 Githabul Native Title determination cut the false Bundjalung Nation in half. The map on this Wikipedia page is not Tindales map, and all research shows the Badjalang were Clarence River people. As this page states.

This information is false.

Mt Warning is not Wollumbin, the Mountain to the Northeast of Mt Warning was gazetted and mapped Mount Wollumbin in 1974.

Incompetent researchers did not consult state maps, pioneers from the Mountains, or the Elders when they wrote the false history books.

(Wollumbinmountain (talk) 09:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC))

Material cut and paste from article

* Aborigines in big land claim win, BBC News Online * Australian Tribe Gets Rights to Parks, Guardian Unlimited * Tribe on high as heartland won back - The Australian - 11 September 2007

The Githabul Native Title claim was lodged by the Native title claimant Trevor Close in 1995. Mr Close received financial help from the Canadian Government to study law at University of Technology in Sydney Australia.

Mr Close dedicated 15 years of his life as a volunteer to force the NSW Government to respect his Githabul Elders and to come to Woodenbong to sign a treaty with the Githabul Elders.

In Australia a treaty is called an Indigenous Land Use Agreement and must be signed by a Federal Court Justice. In this case Justice Lisa Branson signed the Githabul Treaty at the Woodenbong Common on the 29th November 2007. The Githabul Native title claim made World news as it was the first time natives in the State of NSW had been able to prove that they still openly practiced their laws and culture.

Githabul are not Bundjalung.

Given the above information .. with the referencing etc .. it would seem the Githabul people ought have page/article of their own .. and, perhaps, this article be amended to refer to this 'grouping' of peoples and dialects as an overarching language/linguistic grouping labelled (perhaps inappropriately?) Bundjalung by linguists? Bruceanthro (talk) 13:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

False Bundjalung Nation.

False Bundjalung Nation

Hi Bruce,

Githabul do have a page of their own! That is it. I just pasted their page into the false Bundjalung one.

Funny how their official referenced info on Wikipedia proves the false Wikipedia Bundjalung page to be the hoax that it is.

(Wollumbinmountain (talk) 14:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC))

Why is this false page still standing when I have provided conclusive information that disproves it?

Wollumbinmountain (talk) 11:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

False Bundjalung Nation is Fraser's Fabrication

Have found John Frasers' 1892 fabrication of Paikal-Yung in "The Aborigines of New South Wales" which researcher Norman Tindale twisted into Badjalang which then became Bundjalung.

Fraser states "The names Paikalyung (etc) I have made". This link is Frasers' 1892 book.

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=K9Ix39XVANAC&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=fraser+minyung&source=bl&ots=ADtH2GXbCo&sig=wh8tpCgV7rqcISVobP7uPyZjaRo&hl=en&ei=l8l4S6m9NInEsQOwt628Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Tindale stated (paidjal = badjal = man) but did not include the crucial facts about Frasers fabrication.

There was no Bundjalung Tribe, People, Nation, Language or Dialect Chain.

This link is Tindales book.http://www.samuseum.australia.sa.com/tindaletribes/badjalang.htm

Will include this incredible information on the page soon. Or should the false Bundjalung page be removed?

Wollumbinmountain (talk) 11:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)