Talk:List of Thevars

remove veerabahu thevar from this page. there is no mythical(sorry pre-christian

) )connection of this community him. Mythology says Kallan claim their descent from Ahalya, wife of rishi Gautama —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaikolamudali (talk • contribs) 08:22, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Please also claim Rajput kings, Mughal kings, Pashtuns, Queen Elizabeth were also of mukkulathor community lineage

Chera

Cheras were of Villavar lineage[1][2]. The Billavas of Tulunadu of Karnataka, The Villavar Clans of Kerala who founded the Chera Kingdom all are Villavars. They are now knoen as Illavars/Ezhuvar in kerala. Alwar, is a titles of the Villavar tribe. For instance Kulasekara alwar was a Cheraman king. Cheras were addressed as Keralaputras[3]. The descendants of them southern Malayali states in 18th century[4]

Pandya

Its very clear from various sources that Pandyan emperors were Minavar or Minas lineage [5][6]. They are also known by various names such as parathavar, Bharatha kulam. The flag of the Pandiyan kingdom had fish as the emblem for the same reason [7] Pandyas have been mentioned in Silapadikaram as "Arasar murayo Bharathar murayo" . Thalayalanganathu seru vendra Pandiyan Nedunchezian was praised as ???? ?????? ???? ??? in an another Sangam work.

Chola

[8] This Link says Seethalai Sathanar considered it was a degrade when a king marries a Naga princess, which proves Chola king killivalavan and that Naga princess were not of same community. Cholas were of Velir lineages, whos descendants are sub-castes of Velaalars[9]. Velir clan ruled during sangam [10]

other sources

Villavar are identical with the modern Bhils and Minavar have descendants in Minas[11]. They are supposed to be have been the most ancient immigrants event before our Tamil race[12]. The fisherman of kerala called as Arayas were also descended from Minavar [13] Martial maravars descended from Naga tribe [14][15] Villavar are identical with the modern Bhils and Minavar have descendants in Minas[16]. They are supposed to be have been the most ancient immigrants[17]. The fisherman of kerala called as Arayas were also descended from Minavar [18] From Naga tribe many other Tamil castes also originated[19][20]. A Maravar were been described as Oli Nagar in a Sangam work[[21]. The title Maravarman means Viravarman and its not Maravar-man(maravar manithan lol) and thus cannot claim Pandya lineage with some theories. It was unlikely that Pandyas were of Marvar lineage. They were in the Pandya army and were a majority society in Pandya kingdom

Kalappirar

Kalappirar were not Maravar. It was not needed for Maravar to change their name as Kalappirar for a brief period, find a dynasty and to change their name again to Maravar. They belong to a group called Mutharasar or Valaiyar(a caste associated with fishing tradition)[22][23] S. Krishnaswami lyengar had put a theory claiming kalvar-kallar were kalappirars but they were not-Tamils[24][25] and were from Karnataka.

Cleanup

A lot of cleanup work is necessary with this list esp. the section on I.A.S officers and administrators. Could anyone provide sufficient evidence (I mean reliable sources) to establish the notability of those individuals? Wikipedia doesn't accept blog references. -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 16:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

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Cheras, Cholas and Pandyas

I observe that someone has been adding Cheras, Cholas and Pandyas to this list. Considering the fact that another community here, the Nadars consider Pandyas as their own and have been specifying them in their articles, I insist that we resolve this issue through refs. For the time being, I've removed references to Pandyas in this article as well as from Nadar article. I urge that the claim not be reinstated until sufficient references from reliable sources be provided. Thanks-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 22:44, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I insist on this step because there has been some unpleasant caste clashes over this.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 02:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)