Talk:Green-cheeked parakeet

Pic for Page

Here, I have a green-cheeked yellow-sided conure. Here's the pic:

Direct Link: http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb246/fireheart7397/MegCameraPics--KodiacDigitalCamera2.jpg

Fireheart7397 (talk) 18:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

The trouble with that is photobucket images are not allowed on the wiki, because of the licence terms in which they are accepted onto photobucket. May I suggest that you take some more photographs in good light and get some from the front, some from the side, and some from behind. Please upload the best ones (perhaps six) to wiki. Snowman (talk) 18:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Seconded. Beautiful bird you have there, by the way. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 18:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Incidentally, images from flickr can be uploaded to the wiki, provided they are on flickr with a creative commons licence that permits modifications and commercial use. Snowman (talk) 18:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

reason for move

Did this move pre knowing the "official" route. The longer argument for the move from Green-cheeked Conure to Green-cheeked Parakeet is: All major authorities use Green-cheeked Parakeet rather than Green-cheeked Conure, notably the South American Classification Committee (and therefore also AOU), as well as the three main World check-lists: Sibley & Monroe, Clements and Howard & Moore. It is also the name used in the recently published BIRDS OF THE WORLD Recommended English Names by Gill & Wright. Having spend considerable times in the field where it occurs, I have yet to hear anyone referring to it as a conure in these regions. This term is strictly used in aviculture. I have seen the argument used that it, as well as other members of the genus Pyrrhura, are conures, but not parakeets (and it would therefore be wrong to call them parakeets), but this is wrong, as both groups as typically defined (see conure and parakeet) are polyphyletic.Rabo3 06:27, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

Some bird pages are reaching GA and FA status with common names and not by following the strict WP:bird rules (see Blackbird and House Martin). As this bird is known by most people as the "Green-cheeked Conure" there seems to be no reason for "Green-cheeked Parakeet" to be used, now that WP:bird rules are being used less strictly. Snowman (talk) 23:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Oppose per reasoning at Talk:Red-masked Parakeet Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

No longer going to oppose per my comments at WP:BIRD. Sabine's Sunbird talk 21:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Oppose. I think Wikipedia should stick with the names used in science. —JerryFriedman (Talk) 06:24, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured articles like "House Martin" and "Blackbird" use the common names of the birds, so I do not follow your reasoning. It is because few people use the "official" names "Common House Martin" and "Eurasian Blackbird" in their English speaking ranges, and similarly most people know this parrot as a conure. Snowman (talk) 10:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

(Morally) support - a more a exacting epithet. [[::User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[::User talk:Casliber|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 06:46, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Support move to name most commonly associated with the bird. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 17:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Support If you went into a pet store, this bird would be called a Green-cheeked conure, not parakeet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oayfer (talk • contribs) 05:36, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Support It is commonly known as a conure, and the much cited Juniper & Parr "Parrots" also uses the conure terminology. I think it is fine to reference the official terminology in the text, but that the title should be conure. Enviropearson (talk) 01:05, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Moved the article to Green-cheeked Conure on 4/1/08. -Enviropearson (talk) 21:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Subspecies Section

I just added a subspecies section and plan to expand it. Anyone have any more info on the chromosome studies mentioned in the Maroon-bellied parakeet page? It would be interesting to know more about the genetic relationship between the species. Enviropearson (talk) 01:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Move discussion in process

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Nanday Parakeet which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — Snowman (talk) 18:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Citations Needed

I noticed there are several citations missing. One of the citations that is missing is about green cheeks and tool use. Would a picture or a video be sufficient to back up this claim, or do we really need a citation? I could probably find an article somewhere stating that green cheeks can use tools, but I already posted a photo to back it up, so do we really need a citation as well?

--J-a-x (talk) 19:04, 12 March 2010 (UTC)