Talk:Pattern hair loss

Cleanup

Added cleanup tag to Evolution of Androgenic Alopecia, as it reads more like a lecture than an encyclopedia entry. I don't know enough about the subject matter to make changes but something should be done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.101 (talk) 22:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

genetic

Male pattern baldness is a genetic disorder? Someone should probably explain that. . . . 68.6.85.167 08:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Well it is, in a sense. Sure, it's not a serious genetic disorder like Cystic Fibrosis or Sickle-cell anaemia. But it is inherited and it could be considered a disorder in so much that it causes effects that aren't really meant to happen. --Burbster 17:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

There are social theorists who argue that it was 'meant to happen.' Thus, the reason for the pattern in men while women's hair loss is diffuse. Perhaps 'genetic trait' would be better term. Perhaps there's an advantage to removing older men from mate competition, preserving them and allowing them to be parents rather than possibly getting killed? Baldness is correlated with other serious disorders, though.

Small Correction: "are X linked and thus inherited from one's mother's father" should simply read "... from one's mother". Men inherit X linked traits from their mothers, but since women get an X chromosome from both parents a gene on a man's X chromosome could be inherited from either of the man's maternal grandparents. Reference: Genes VII by Benjamin Lewin.

removed

Removed People with this Condition... the two that were listed do not have androgenetic alopecia, they have alopecia universalis. There IS a difference. MMoyer 18:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

X and Y

I think the comments about a male person's X chromosome being inherited from his mother and the Y chromosome being inherited from his father, are over-simplified to the point of being misleading. A male will inherit 22 X chromosomes from his father and 1 Y chromosome. Have the genes responsible for Androgenetic alopecia been shown to be in the gonosome (23rd pair)? Sledge68 19:40, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Um, Sledge68, that is simply incorrect... a male will inherit 22 autosomal chromosomes from his father and a Y chromsome; the other 22 autosomal chromosomes and the X will come from his mother. Blackmetalbaz 12:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Castration as a possible treatment

Should castration be listed as a treatment? Maybe I'm being squeamish but I don't think it's a treatment that anyone would undergo(at least not for baldness). Are there any known instances of indiviuals undergoing castration to specifically halt the onset of baldness? Otherwise I think that should be removed. Donquigleone (talk) 23:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

No, baldness has nothing to do with testosterone--250GP (talk) 13:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Effectiveness of Saw Palmetto vs Finesteride

Why is Saw Palmetto considered less effective than finesteride? Saw Palmetto inhibits both isoforms of 5alpha-reductase. Finesteride inhibits only one. --Ryan Wise (talk) 05:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Please help!

هل يمكن أن يحدث الصلع الذكوري أو الوراثي بدون تراجع خط الشعر الأمامي؟ هل هناك فرق بين الصلع الوراثي والذكوري؟ هل يمكن أن يحدث الصلع الأنثوي إلى رجل؟ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.234.227.231 (talk) 04:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Horrible wording

I don't like how one part of this section is worded "Androgenic alopecia (also known as androgenetic alopecia or alopecia androgenetica) is a common form of hair loss in both male and female humans" Male and female humans? As opposed to all the other humans?76.226.115.48 (talk) 10:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

This article is absolutely false

There are many mistakes in this article, here is some of the most ridicolus mistakes:

1) Androgens (especially testosterone with the UNIQUE exception of DHT) have nothing to do with baldness. It was an old theory, now it is clear that men or women with baldness have LOW TESTOSTERONE LEVELS (I will insert the articles), and this is clear watching the typical body of bald men with the typical muscle mass deficiency, instead the FIRST free testosterone effect is building of muscle mass

2) It is written that bald men have more testosterone, FALSE! It is true the contrary, bald men have low testosterone levels (hypogonadism) and exactly for this reason have often diabetes mellitus

3) It is written that IGF-I (according to an old citation, in pefect contrast to new scientific articles) has a bad effect on hairs, absolutely false, bald men or women have low IGF/I levels, and the decrease of IGF-I levels lead to baldness, alwais! IGF-I IS THE MOST IMPORTANT HORMONE FOR HAIRS!

4) If the testosterone and IGF-I levels were linked to baldness, aged people should be protected from baldness (because aged people have andropause and somatopause), it is true the contrary of course

5) According to this article it seems that women are partially procted from baldness due to estrogens, that's FALSE! Aged women have less estrogens than old men. Women have usually more IGF-I than men, this is the true reason

I also recommed to use new citations. I will insert later new citations.--250GP (talk) 13:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)