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Albanian colonisation of Kosovo

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This was originally going to be speedy deleted as G3 (obvious vandalism), but I'd much prefer an AfD - it doesn't quite meet the standards for G3. Opinions Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 18:30, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kosovo-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:03, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

• Redirect to History of Ottoman Kosovo. Essentially a pov fork. Ray^Talk 21:08, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. kedadial 22:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
• Delete This can also be covered in Albanians in Kosovo. Mandsford (talk) 22:05, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
• Keep Numerous sources has been removed from article, in order to minimize its importance, and now, it is requested on AfD, by POV pushing pro-Albanian editor. Give article a chance. This is historical information that need it's own article, specially in the moment of Kosovo disputed status. Citing from talk page:

This article has been created by the editor of Serbian nationality in order to offend Ethnic Albanians living in Kosovo

It is unrelated who created this article. Is this main reason for the delete? I think so. Article should be expanded, so it's relevance can be seen easier then. --Tadija^taking 00:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Aren't you Kosovo-topic banned, for 2 weeks? kedadial 18:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

No. And you should not worry about me, thanks anyway! --Tadija^taking 01:32, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Tadija is Balkans topic banned but only regarding articles.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 16:18, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

No, i am not topic banned. You should stop talking about me, that is violation of wiki rules. --Tadija^taking 17:30, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

[1] according to this you are under editing restrictions.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 17:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

As the administrator who placed that restriction, I can confirm that it applies only to articlespace and not the Wikipedia: namespace (such as AFD discussions). The Wordsmith^Communicate 17:45, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

• Delete, it must be delete because it is historical nonsense, it where the serbs that came from oeral to colonise the balkan--Vinie007 04:53, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

• Delete, it is a wp:cfork as Ray says. In fact the article is a copy/paste of parts of History of Ottoman Kosovo and History of Kosovo. The creator of the article seems also to misuse the term colonisation applying it broadly to minor unorganized migration.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 10:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

• Delete, This article represents serbian POV. It's title is formed in a propagandistic style, trying to build a historical falseness. Piasoft (talk) 17:15, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

• Delete, This article is a provocation written by a serb nationalist. it's difficult to define the migration of albanian in Kosovo colonozation.User:Lucifero4

• Delete, per piasoft-- LONTECH  Talk  19:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

• Keep There is a lot to be written here. --Alexmilt (talk) 12:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

• Delete, as per piasoft and Lucifero4 reasoning. If someone is interested in population movements inside Kosovo, we can create an article about that since prehistorical times, but in my opinion is useless anyway Aigest (talk) 16:19, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Comment: I see that wp:Albania was already informed about this afd, so I posted a notice on wp:serbia and wp:kosovo too.Alexikoua (talk) 19:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

• Delete or Redirect to History of Ottoman Kosovo, Albanians in Kosovo or History of Kosovo.___Kebeta (talk) 20:05, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

• Notes from the starter of the article: I haven't edited since i started the article and i'm about to expand the article, you can clearly see that the ones that oppose the article are all ethnic Albanians. The colonization of Kosovo was part of the wider Ottoman colonization, however this article will only encompasse the colonization of Albanians by the Ottoman Empire and later in the 19th and 20th centuries. Strong Keep / Ajdebre (talk) 20:25, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

No, they're not. You're suggesting that even the nominator is an Albanian, which he isn't.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 20:29, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Nominator is Lontech, Chase me just moved it to AfD. --Tadija^taking 01:29, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

He wasn't obligated to move to AfD, as Manford, Kebeta and others who voted for its deletion aren't Albanians.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 09:28, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Delete, pov fork article with subject mentioned in other articles.--Kushtrim123 (talk) 20:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

* Keep. I think that this article should exist and should broadly cover this topic than History of Ottoman Kosovo solely from demographic aspects. History of Ottoman Kosovo should be reserved for fighting between Balkan nations, Serbian and Albanian national revival, etc. -- Bojan  Talk  02:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC) I have just seen this Demographics of Kosovo. So, I'm neutral on existence of this article as long as same facts are standing in article Demographics of Kosovo. -- Bojan  Talk  02:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

• Keep and stick to historicity. This is historically accurate, if presently politically-loaded. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 03:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Removing of almost entire article

User:Kedadi deleted almost entire article that was expanded in order to push article deletion. Also, here should be noted that meatpuppetry is stricltly forbiden on wikipedia. --Tadija^taking 01:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is [2]. Alexmit should stop trying to get support.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 09:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Artical is on voting here, so stop vandalising it now by deleting huge parts of it.--Alexmilt (talk) 08:30, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

That's not the definition of vandalising, because most of the article is wp:or.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 09:28, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Stop with that. No, you are not right. If you doubt about source, than you should ask for opinion on WP:RS. You ARE NOT allowed to delete all of that just because
you don't like it. That is essence of vandalism. --Tadija^taking 17:40, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not doubting the source, because there isn't a source for most of the article. It's a copy/paste article and the the only source related to the article is about the first sentence.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 17:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

That's not true, sources are throughout entire article. And there is nothing bad in one copy from related article. As you see, article is under expansion. --Tadija^taking 08:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

99% of the sources have no relation to the subject itself. Being entirely a copy/paste from other articles is the essence of WP:CFORK and as such the article should be deleted.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 09:38, 15 April 2010 (UTC)