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There's another Monty Python's Flying Circus episode that parodies the opening titles of 2001 -- a piece of animation with the "setting" planets. Earth immediately on its appearance is kicked like a soccer ball, hit by the heads of several soccer players, then falls into a globe stand, where it becomes part of the opening titles of "World Forum," the game show with Che Guevara, Mao and Lenin. [[User:Banjochris|Banjochris]] ([[User talk:Banjochris|talk]]) 00:51, 16 April 2010 (UTC) |
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you need to add the parody "2001: a space travesty" starring leslie nielsen <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.61.17.152|68.61.17.152]] ([[User talk:68.61.17.152|talk]]) 16:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Scientific Accuracy
In the article it is stated: "Similarly, the behavior of Dave and Frank in the pod bay is not fully consistent with zero-Gs, as it should be since the pod bay is not in a centrifuge. The astronauts could be wearing magnetic boots, but their leaning on the table when they try to diagnose the AE-35 unit is especially peculiar. Finally, in an environment with a radius as small as the main quarters, the simulated gravity would vary enormously from the center of the crew quarters to the 'floor', even varying between feet, waist, and head. Nor is the RPM of the crew quarters fast enough to generate anything close to earth gravity."
It is true that the POD bay is in zero g, but the floor of the POD is clearly visible and covered with the same Velcro material as in other zero g situations in the film, it is also clear that Frank and Dave are 'grip' walking, its is a little more abbreviated that the ship attendant in the Orion III scene, but astronauts such as Dave and Frank would be more adept. "The astronauts could be wearing magnetic boots," This 'magnetic boots' gaff has not been corrected, the author seems be thinking he is watching Destination Moon, those are 'grip shoes' not 'magnetic boots'. --aajacksoniv 10:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC) The comments about the centrifuge for the crew quarters should have a note that Fred Ordway documents these effects in reference 47. Ordway and Lange computed the correct size of the Discovery's crew quarters centrifuge, but there was no soundstage big enough to accommodate such a set, even if could have been built. --aajacksoniv 10:32, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Reference 52 in the main article: the link to Gaffes & Glitches in 2001 by Geoffrey Alexander & Thomas E. Brown is not a totally validated site, in that no references are given and most of the comments are personal interpertations. --aajacksoniv 10:47, 31 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aajacksoniv (talk • contribs) --aajacksoniv 19:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
This statement need a reference: "Finally, being in outer space environment without a proper suit would have exposed him to −270.15 °C temperature which he would have been unlikely to survive."
A full discussion of survivability has been studied, see here:
http://www.geoffreylandis.com/vacuum.html
especially the two NASA reports in the references. --aajacksoniv 00:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aajacksoniv (talk • contribs)
Why the heck is that 'magnetic boots' statement still there?! This is the film 2001, not Pal's Destination Moon!--aajacksoniv 11:38, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
The article claims that "Even rudimentary voice-controlled computing now exists, although it is still not as sophisticated as depicted in the film." I believe that Google Voice prints voice mails to text quite effortlessly. Perhaps "rudimentary" is not the best way to describe it. Any ideas from someone who better understands the state of voice-controlled computing? Connor Towle 01:26, 22 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Convicious (talk • contribs)
Imagining the future
The section "Imagining the future" seems a bit confused about whether it's comparing the film's predictions with the state of affairs in 2001, or with the state of affairs "now" (i.e. whenever someone happened to come along and edit it). 86.138.104.57 (talk) 20:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
parodies
There's another Monty Python's Flying Circus episode that parodies the opening titles of 2001 -- a piece of animation with the "setting" planets. Earth immediately on its appearance is kicked like a soccer ball, hit by the heads of several soccer players, then falls into a globe stand, where it becomes part of the opening titles of "World Forum," the game show with Che Guevara, Mao and Lenin. Banjochris (talk) 00:51, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
you need to add the parody "2001: a space travesty" starring leslie nielsen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.17.152 (talk) 16:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- Only the title is borrowed. Beyond that "Space Travesty" does not parody "Space Odyssey".--WickerGuy (talk) 19:19, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- Correction. 4 scenes from Odyssey are in Travesty, although the broad plot is not at all alike. Added to section.--WickerGuy (talk) 19:30, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Allmovie
- 2001: A Space Odyssey at AllMovie ... plot synopsis, review, cast, production credits, awards
Reference available for citing in the article body. Erik (talk) 19:58, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Bedroom
The bedroom at the end of the movie is very similar to the room, which can be seen in the clip of I Don't Know What You Want But I Can't Give It Any More by the Pet Shop Boys. Is there any correlation? -- 87.144.126.133 (talk) 14:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Problematic section
The "scientific accuracy" section as it stands looks like a big piece of original research with many of 2001 "inaccuracies" being sourced of primary sources like the NASA and such, or even off personal websites. While it's probably an interesting exercise to spot the rare mistakes in 2001, I think Wikipedia is not the place to do so. So for now I'm going to tag the statements and sources that I think are problematic and, if they are not properly sourced after some time, I will remove them. Laurent (talk) 18:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- One small fix. By simply reversing the order of two sentences that now reads "On the DVD edition of the film released in 2007, Arthur C. Clarke states in an interview that had he been on the set the day they filmed this, he would have caught this error. Before exposure to a vacuum, one must exhale, because holding in the breath would rupture the lungs." I think one can safely remove the OR tag. Cite Clarke first, then NASA.--WickerGuy (talk) 20:20, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Ironically, an earlier version of this section was heavily uncited. However, since many of the citations subsequently found are not from sources specifically discussing this film, their use does somewhat become OR. For example, it is well-known to virtually everyone in the aerospace industry or astronomy community that stars don't twinkle in outer space, but to find that in a source specifically discussing Space Odyssey is awfully hard.--WickerGuy (talk) 22:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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