Talk:Taschen

I cant for the life of me find where their store in in Tokyo.. Its not even listed on their website.. Anyone have any info?

Taschen - False Accusation of Vandalism

The edit of mine that your consider "vandalism" was a rollback of a possibly AGF edit (I believe I mis-clicked and clicked Vandalism) removing over half the article. I did not add the text, which was originally added by a previous user. The vandalism rollback restored approximately half the article (I gave up scrolling through the revision page after I scrolled through several hundreds of lines on my screen (several of which, were Russian, but I figured they may have had relevancy to the article: If you were to have paid attention, you would have seen that the section was tagged with {{notenglish}}, requesting translation. Please do NOT falsely accuse me (or any other Wikipedian) of vandalism. I work to fight vandalism, and am a member of the Wikipedia Counter Vandalism Unit ([WP:CVU]), and I do not vandalize articles. I am reverting your edit, as it was obviously done in good faith, however, seeing as the content may have significant relevance to the article (based on Google translation, but I'm unsure if that would count as a reliable translation for WP standards), the content will be re-listed, and will have the {{notenglish}}, requesting reliable translation. Thank you and good day. --ANowlin: talk 02:25, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

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Change in Planned Action: I am going to go ahead and post a copy of the Russian text here, and post a translation via Google. I decided to look again at the text, and it appears as though it may be copyrighted material from an included link (after the text. If the material is a copy vio, (which I imagine Coren would have detected automatically), then someone could paraphrase.

Original Text: До появления Taschen издательства ориентировались на довольно узкую целевую группу – осведомленных и преимущественно состоятельных людей, в основном, на тех, кто создает или коллекционирует произведения искусства. Ни одному из них не пришло в голову, что можно достичь успеха, ориентируясь на людей, которые к вышеназванной группе не принадлежат. И тогда появился кельнский кудесник, который стал нести искусство в массы. Элитарную тему, которая в основном зиждилась на высоких ценах, он превратил в нечто совершенно обычное, фактически массовое и доступное каждому «Для нас очень важно, чтобы каждый, кто стремится к каким-либо знаниям, мог в любом магазине приобрести книгу по вполне приемлемой цене. Так что начинаем с 4-х фунтов, поскольку, как я слышал, наши читатели делают свои первые шаги с дешевых позиций, а со временем начинают проявлять интерес к книгам по архитектуре»3, – говорит Ташен в одном из интервью, подытоживая политику фирмы. Таким образом, можно решиться на утверждение, что его издательство воспитывает людей, учит их понимать искусство и должным образом развивает их интересы. В этом свете можно понять упреки со стороны снобистской публики, которая считает Ташена отцом кича и безвкусицы, а его публикации – искусством для убогих; упреки, которые преимущественно зиждутся на том, что большинство ташеновских изданий не претендуют на полное и исчерпывающее раскрытие темы. Многие из них остаются на начальном уровне, другие идут чуть дальше, и все-таки большинство из них вряд ли можно назвать солидными. «Мы стараемся давать основательную информацию, изложенную так, чтобы людям это было приятно читать. Если кто-то хотел бы расширить и углубить свои знания на какую-либо тему, существует много других книг, которых мы не можем предложить читателю», – говорит Ташен. Но единственный ли это аргумент, который свидетельствует в пользу многочисленных критических (порой очень острых) комментариев? Так или иначе, если кому-то удается массово вводить людей в элитарный клуб знатоков искусства, то он должен быть готов снискать на себя гнев многих социальных групп.

Translation via Translate.Google.Com: Prior to the publishing house Taschen relied on a rather narrow target group - knowledgeable and mostly wealthy people, mostly those who creates or collects works of art. None of them came to my mind that we can achieve success, focusing on people who are in these groups do not belong. And then came Cologne magician who has held art to the masses. Elitist theme, which mainly was based on high prices, he turned into something quite ordinary, in fact widespread and accessible to all "For us it is important that anyone who aspires to any knowledge he could in any store to buy the book at an affordable price . So start with a 4-pound, because, as I have heard that our readers are taking their first steps with cheap products, and eventually begin to show interest in books on architecture, "3 - Tashenov said in an interview, summing up the company's policy. Thus, we can decide on the assertion that his publisher educates people and teaches them to understand the art and properly develop their interests. In this light, one can understand rebukes from the elitist public, which believes Tashena father of kitsch and bad taste, and its publication - art for the miserable, the reproaches, which mainly are based on the fact that most tashenovskih publications does not claim to be full and complete disclosure of the topic. Many of them remain at the primary level, while others go a bit further, and yet most of them can hardly be called solid. "We try to provide thorough information provided so that the people it was a pleasure to read. If anyone would like to expand and deepen their knowledge on any topic, there are many other books, which we can not offer the reader "- says Tashenov. But only if this argument, which argues in favor of critical (sometimes very sharp) comments? Anyway, if someone can introduce mass of people in the elite club of connoisseurs of art, it should be ready to win the wrath of many social groups.

Included Link: Taschen-the Secret of Success (Ташен- секрет успеха)

Sorry for using the V-word. I agree that the Russian text should not be in the article but (at best) on the Talk-page. Or deleted... 195.35.160.133 (talk) 14:35, 1 June 2010 (UTC) Martin.