Talk:Whitechapel (band)

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As they've charted, this is unlikely to be deleted, and as someone else has watchlisted it, I feel no need to babysit it any longer. I've dewatchlisted it; have fun with the genre wars. Chubbles (talk) 14:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh ok I could have sworn this article kept disappearing and reappearing Eggbertx (talk) 17:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Whitechapel = purely deathcore

Whitechapel is deathcore, not death metal or any other genre - and here in this section is for all the people who would like to debate over their genre can go to cease the disruptive genre wars the page has held, but before you do I'd like to state the reasons why this is their only genre and as to why it is. Not only is it sourced several times.[1][2][3] But as to just state simple reasons see the following, this is a list of deathcore standards that they feature to further prove the band is deathcore, not death metal.

1. They have breakdowns, death metal does not
2. They feature a bar of melodic riffs at least once in each one of their songs, this is found rarely if not never in death metal
3. They usually feature shrieked/screamed vocals which also is never commonly found in death metal.

-- GunMetal Angel 16:21, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Well some death metal bands have breakdowns rather than the solo, because then all of the band can do compared to the one or two people at once for example Dying Fetus. The melodic riffs are in melodic death metal, other than the shrieked and screamed vocals, because that is in black metal its could be a element of death metal mixed with black metal and deathcore. <font color="blue"<panicpack121 3:33, 27 March, 2010 (UTC).

You're simply crituqing in your own words; you have a source for any of this? No you don't! Whitechapel is deathcore plain and simple. And the only death metal song I've ever found that has a breakdown would be Hammer Smashed Face. • GunMetal Angel 21:41, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Point 1: Are you implying that Dying Fetus and Suffocation are NOT Death Metal Bands? Are you aware that Nile, Necrophagist, and Behemoth have also used them, albeit VERY rarely? Also Vireamia.

Point 2: Melodic Death Metal and Tech Death. Obscura, Necrophagist, At the Gates, Arch Enemy, Anata, Children of Bodem, Illogicist, Amon Amarth, etc.

Point 3: Shrieked? Not often. Screamed? Dying Fetus, At the Gates, Anata, Obscura, and some others have used screams though. Shrieking is more common among Black Metal.

This refutation has been completely pointless, the inclusion of all of these things in a single band does not automatically make that band deathcore. There is far more to it than that, such as what scales and time signitures are often used. All of this has been completely pointless still in that on wikipedia, our opinions are worthless. The only thing that matters is sourcing. Varifiable and reliable source says Deathcore? They get labled as Deathcore. Varifiable and Reliable source says Death Metal? They get labled as Death Metal. Simple as that. 108.15.17.159 (talk) 18:16, 3 September 2010 (UTC)