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Hi there, Sonia! Do you know about re-directs? I have altered one to 'point' directly to a section on a page rather just to the page, however this does not seem to work. It is HERE

• 'Tropospheric ducting' was redirected to Tropospheric propagation which has a section called Tropospheric ducting, I want to go directly to Tropospheric propagation#Tropospheric ducting if possible. Clicking on it (at left) works, but not the redirect! What the? ☣ 220.101 talk^\Contribs 09:18, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

It seems to work for me. Maybe caching? If not, I'm no more knowledgeable than you are, being a non-techie by Wikipedian standards, anyway. sonia♫ 09:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

...a non-techie by Wikipedian standards, anyway. Had to smile at that! I've got a background in software development, systems administration, and technical writing. I reckon I'm a non-techie on Wikipedia... ;-) TFOWR 10:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Well- you count as a techie, because you can at least speak tech. :P Apparently simply editing Wikipedia has given me "resident techie" status among my friends, who are sadly very mistaken... sonia♫ 10:30, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

So when you click on Tropospheric ducting it goes straight to the correct section, which has a picture of

"Auckland, New Zealand 175.25 MHz ch4 TV received by Robert Copeman, Sydney, Australia." ? ☢ 220.101 talk^\Contribs 09:36, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it does indeed- in both Fx 3.6 and IE6. (Although the latter takes a good while to jump to the section.) sonia♫ 09:44, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Resolved

 – Pushing the wrong keys!

Well, I'm using IE7 and it was going to the top of the page, which is what it did before I changed the redirect! I was alt+F5 not ctrl+F5, so it seems it was caching! Seems like I've made that mistake before! Thanks! - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 10:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I was about to tell you to enable the dinky UTC clock gadget (that purges the page when clicked) in preferences, then I realized you can't, because you don't have an account...! Get an account already! sonia♫ 10:13, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

☠ 220.101 talk^\Contribs 10:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

D'aww, thanks! Not sure what I did to deserve that, but seeing as it's coming from your highness it's going in my treasure chest :) sonia♫ 10:30, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Holidaying in New Zealand

Is New Zealand a nice place, going there for a family Christmas Holiday this year :) AfC seems to be backlogged, but I'm afraid of taking care of anything but copyvios ever since my last kerfuffle and I can't get much help since I can't access IRC. Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 2:15pm • 04:15, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Agh, FD, I just sent you an email and come back to the new messages bar! If you reply, I can recommend places to go etc and talk in more detail about holidaying in NZ (and one event that might be coming up while you're over here!), as I don't particularly want to spam this page with stalker-friendly details. AfC? I'm recovering from food poisoning (and trying to recover stuff- my external hard drive got stolen when I was at the doctor's.) So I haven't had a good look at it in a while. I'll see what I can do. By all means do some reviews, and if they're not blatantly inappropriate pop them here for me to have a check over. You won't improve if you don't get a chance to practice. :) sonia♫ 04:24, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh ok then thanks for the advice, righto I'll check my email and give a response there. Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 2:41pm • 04:41, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Replied, get well soon and hopefully you catch that rotten thief! Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 2:56pm • 04:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

• Excuse me for butting in but I just noticed the illness and stolen HDD. That sucks! Makes me think about my external HDD's security too. Hope you didn't lose any vital projects! - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 09:57, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Ditto, that sucks. Only consolation I can offer is that Dick Smith's is consistently cheaper than the equivalent in Britain. I cry every time I have to buy a hard-drive here... I shop around here, I never bothered back home.

FD, where are you going in NZ? Since I'm not there, I can provide travel tips without clueing-up stalkers... TFOWR 10:04, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Both islands and the major cities (hopefully) for 5-7 days during Christmas. My dad made it final, we're getting our new passports soon :) Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 9:16am • 23:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Ugghhhh email client's gone screwy, I hate the New South Wales Department of Education and Training... —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 9:38am • 23:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Probably a better idea, both for safety and convenience, to not use your school email for Wikipedia correspondence. Webmail clients are more reliable than school-issued ones, from my experience. I always used to just forward my school email to my main account. sonia♫ 00:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but I can't be bothered creating a new email for Wikipedia correspondence, the NSWDET email server is hosted by Google and uses the Gmail software, they have to pay for it annually I believe. Google Apps or whatever it is. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 3:37pm • 05:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

A separate GMail (or other webmail) account will have the advantage that (a) you can use your real name on your school email (and in email signatures) but your Wikipedia username on your Wikipedia email account. I created a separate Wikipedia email account for that very reason. And (b) if some idiot troll gets hold of your Wikipedia email address and starts spamming it repeatedly it's very easy to just stop using it - Wikipedia editors can use Wikipedia's "email this user" to email you at your new Wikipedia email address. Just my 2c...

Long bit about tourism...
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Back to your NZ trip: I'm guessing you won't be heading too far North, so Cape Reinga and the likes of Tāne Mahuta are out, but if you can do head up that way the Bay of Islands should be a definite stop-over. Round Auckland there's plenty of tourist stuff. You can see Sky Tower everywhere, so you could possibly give it a miss, but I'd imagine the view from the top is well worth it (and it's the tallest building in the Southern Hemisphere...) Rangitoto is great, and I'd recommend it, but take stout boots and plenty to eat and drink. (There's a company called, I think, "Discover NZ" who do boat trips all over NZ - I went of a trip with them round the Bay of Islands and I'd thoroughly recommend them - they do trips to Rangitoto too, I think). Try and go up at least one volcano while you're in Auckland, so Rangitoto would cover that, and it's our newest volcano! Heading south/east from Auckland - the Coromandel is amazing. If you're into shellfish at all the western part is great for collecting mussels (poor road, however). Hot Water Beach is superb - not that touristy, surprisingly, but a great place to go - dig a hole in the sand and let if fill with hot water, mix in some cold sea water, relax! You should aim to definitely see Rotorua - NZ's tourist capital, but it's not as cheesy as it sounds, and it's full of Māori culture as well as the tourist stuff like zorbing. On the subject of "Māoritanga", King Country is nice, but maybe more for driving through. Taupo is another touristy place, but still very worth a visit. Mount Ruapehu is very scenic - you probably don't have time for heading up it, but it's good if you can. Snow and hot water...

Dammit, I don't know how useful this list will be - you probably know much of this already, and it's not very "Auckland-focussed". (It is, however, very North-of-the-North-Island-focussed... only been to "the Mainland" once...!) Anyway, I'll have a think about Auckland stuff. I tend to remember unimportant things like where you can buy beer at 5 in the morning, and the quickest way to get from the airport to the North Shore - probably not that useful ;-) TFOWR 09:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Woah, thanks TFOWR :) I'll save this information, volcano? *gulp* ooh I like mussels, wait how tall are the mountains on average and how long does it take? I'm probably going to Sky Tower (my dad was telling me lots about it), thanks again TFOWR, shame I won't be able to meet you in person :( thanks again (again) regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 7:26pm • 09:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, volcanoes! I've not forgotten your email, and will get back to it, but for starters I'd highly recommend the Tongariro Crossing as something to do if your family is reasonably fit. Round Christmas time the view should be good and the weather cooperative. As for Rotorua, the Luge is pretty cool (although I can't drive them half as well as I can drive a car!) sonia♫ 20:14, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Volcanoes, active, dormant or dead? I don't mind them but they kinda scare me! Heh thanks for all the information, I'll be sure to visit most of those places, I'm getting information from resident Kiwis, what could possibly go wrong? :) Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 12:20pm • 02:20, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

IP 220 asks about HJ's top-secret trip!

Have any idea about this as HJ has left me in the dark! <sniff> Clears up why he is in 'Frisco though! - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 08:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

I do, though I suspect you know as much as me, really. As you know, HJ is in SF, and he's there to make screencasts for the WMF - userbility stuff, I gather, showing how people use the MediaWiki software. As part of that he needed an account that had no admin buttons or userscripts - basically, a completely new user account (so Whiskey Drinker wouldn't have worked, since HJ has Igloo anti-vandal stuff enable on Whiskey Drinker).

So HJ created HJ Mitchell (test) (talk).

All good, except that we've had problems with idiots impersonating HJ in the past - there was the "HJ Michelle" account, then I blocked the "HJ Mitchell's bot" account the other day.

Courcelles saw "HJ Mitchell (test)" and - not unreasonably - feared the worst, and blocked it. And you know the rest - it involves a serious instance of self-trouting! TFOWR 09:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

TFOWR, where is the source for the "HJ Michelle" account? Is it fake? Or was it renamed? For me it says it is not a registered account. Also, in the future, try following the WP:RBI rule. {{Blockedimpersonator|Name of real user}} should work just fine for blocked impersonators. HeyMid (contributions) 09:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Can't remember the exact name of the account, but if you trawl HJ's archives you'll find it. The account claimed to be HJ's wife, if I remember correctly. Not sure what you mean about revert, block, ignore - that's basically what we do here ;-) There often has to be some discussion - ideally later, after a suitable period of ignoring - but in this case the account certainly was blocked and ignored. I can't recall if they'd done anything that needed reverting...? TFOWR 09:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

OK, but I am wondering what makes further discussion worth it? Not to waste anyone's times, but maybe your just discussing this for fun, so we are aware of these impersonator accounts? HeyMid (contributions) 11:24, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

I think it's worth it, so that people are aware of a few issues:

• HJ in particular, and editors in general, may be victims of impersonation. Impersonators may use tricks like claiming to be a bot account, or claiming to be a test account, or claiming to an editor's wife.
• ...but, we need to be careful. Sometimes editors do create test accounts ;-)

"Ignoring" here really means - don't say any more than we have to to the account. Talking about it elsewhere is generally OK, though we should probably avoid highly-visible places like ANI. It's possible that the idiot who pretended to be HJ's wife is watching this page - but they won't get much gratification from it: 50 people, maybe, watch this page. 1000s watch ANI. So we're not really doing much to encourage or gratify the impersonators by discussing it here, and it may be useful - people watching Sonia's talkpage are clueful, and will likely find this discussion useful in helping to spot impersonation attempts in the future. TFOWR 11:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Impersonation attempts usually fail, or they get revealed later. Have there ever been any successful impersonation attempts that you know? HeyMid (contributions) 11:39, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Not in the long-run, but in the short-term they could so some damage before getting spotted. TFOWR 11:45, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Morning,T.FOul WeatheR,TFOWR. Yeh, not so much the account, that was explained by HJ. I was just a bit surprised by the trip to the US and then finding out is is 'secret' wiki bizness. (He might even get to meet Jimbo!!) - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 09:40, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Ah! There was a discussion about a month ago on HJ's talkpage. Again, you'll need to trawl his archives to find it. Only pointer I can give is: look for my signature turning green with envy! (Why yes, I do like playing around with my signature for humorous effect ;-) TFOWR 09:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

I typically only change my signature colours for seasonal reasons (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Aargh! 'tis the season now, me 'earty! Capn. T. Fowr ☠ 10:23, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Hard drive shopping...

TFOWR, Yeh I missed it! (I knew about his 'wife') Did you notice in the previous thread where some $#!7% has stolen Sonias Hard Disk! - ☠ - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 10:06, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Not only noticed it, but commented! You'll be glad to note that I advertised an Australian store ;-) I'm guessing you have better sources for low-cost PC stuff than me, though - Dick Smith wasn't the cheapest, but compared to the UK it worked for me. And it was handy for the weekend grocery shopping experience, too ;-) TFOWR 10:19, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

...though I'll add that I opt for the Kiwi supermarkets over the Aussie supermarkets - New World, not Woolworths... TFOWR 10:21, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

(Note to self: must check before I post) Nooooo not 'Dick Heads'. I would go to Harvey Norman, if they are in NZ. I got mt ext. HDD (500Gb AUD$ 139) from Domayne, which is actually a part of Harvey Norman. Of course now you get twice as much for half the price! We best terminate this thread or Miss Sonia wil have cause to complain about us using her page for a mail box! - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 10:37, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Whoa! I have an early night and you guys take over! (And now my compulsive side has to refactor all the headings for my archives...) "Dick Heads", 220.101? That's rude. I've seen 1Tb in the shops for about NZ$110 now. My previous one was a 600 Gb, and I'm sure it cost more than that. JB Hi-Fi seems to be the place where lots of people are picking up bargains nowadays, but I must say that for a store that started off only selling music cds they have a horrendous choice of classical music.

rant about what I lost

To reply to your question about what was on the drive in one place: tons. :( About ten gigs of music, including my own recordings All my software a ton of incomplete paperwork, sheet music, sketches, and graphics and this one really gets me- a nearly complete website for a local non-profit. It was almost ready to go live. And they also stole my phone. Fuck the phone itself (a low-end LG), but I lost all my contacts! I have no idea how much personally identifying information they have now, but I guess the good that came out of that is that I decided to create safeguards.

Use my talk page as a mailbox all you like- I still jump when I see the orange bar, and frequent exposure should cure me of that. :P sonia♫ 21:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Don't forget to get your phone 'disabled', if that is possible. (I had one via Vodafone and I got it turned off!) Maybe you should try ringing it? I was wondering what your safeguards were about! The thieves will get 'theirs'! (eventually, imho. See my comment 'part deux') - ;-) - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 22:58, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Good idea- I'll do that. Thanks. sonia♫ 00:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

So your wife shares your initials but not your last name?

Was really a bit of a laugh (see refactored section header). I'm glad I haven't had any impersonators. sonia♫ 21:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

220 part deux

Apologies for 'rudeness', but Dick Smith is a bit of a 'DH' and the graphic on his stores signs were of Dicks' head!, so when I was attending a TAFE near his original store it was referred to as 'Dick Heads' ! (true!). JB HiFi would likely be a very good place for a new HDD though a computer 'market', if you have such, may be good(=cheaper) too. Possibly even Officeworks? (looks like thay are only in Oz)
• Woe unto those who have purloined your goods! Surely Karma shall work it's Wrath upon them and Smite them! ☠ (or something like that) - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 22:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Dick Smith actually has a line of matches called Dick Heads funnily enough. Didn't Dick Smith make biscuits similar in name to the Tim Tam? —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 9:30am • 23:30, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Correct, 'Temptin' , see Dick Smith Foods#Legal issues - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 00:18, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Interesting... learn somethin' new every day, huh? 220: you should use your telekinetic skillz to avenge me! :P

While I'm here, stalkers: I projectspaced my essay from simple. You can read/mutilate it at WP:Ignoring IAR. Thanks. sonia♫ 00:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Very nice essay Sonia :) it sums up what IAR is all about and when/not to use it. Better than mine (well everyone's is better than mine ;) ) What do you think of my thoughts on the RfX Process here??? Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 3:54pm • 05:54, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Computer

Sonia, I take it you still have your computer? You might be able to recover recent work from the temporary files on your internal HDD. I did this recently after IE crashed on me when I had a fairly large edit open. (I said "Oh bother, Darn it, and Gee whiz that is annoying!" (or something like that ;-)) ) However I am running WinXP sp3, and IE 7. Don't know what difference it makes if you have a differ operating system/web browser. But I was able to recover most of my edit! - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 07:20, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again! I'll see, although I use about two dozen different computers a week so that might be interesting... sonia♫ 07:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering: Is installing a new software the reason you removed 53kB of your talk page? oO Regards SoWhy 08:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

...oops. I really shouldn't attempt to archive and reply in one edit. sonia♫ 08:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

LOL, heh I set the archive counter on my talk page to 20 once and it archived there instead of 5 because of that lol. Ah well we're all human we all make mistakes :) a quality shared by most animals? —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 7:09pm • 09:09, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

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Bolognese AFC

That AFC is more than in un-English, it is rather unflattering to the subject! (excuse me if you are already aware). I suggest deletion! - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 12:19, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I love Chrome! It means I can pretend my linguistic skills extend beyond speaking English badly. Anyway... assuming this is the same AFC, Chrome says it ends with "...so I think that sometimes in this world rules the devil .... and he is a devil's personal secretary, the acolyte, the right hand of Satan." Looks to me like an attack article. If it had been created in article-space I'd be wielding the {{Db-g10}} hammer... Google News turns up nothing, and Google-proper only turns up a few uninteresting results (I searched for "Jimmy" and "James", naturally...) TFOWR 12:32, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Si señor TFOWR, es como usted dice. Él es el diablo! - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 13:04, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

*Fingers crossed* Don't let me down, translate.google.com...

Incluso el mismo Satanás está protegido por nuestra "biografías de personas que viven de la política".

How's that? ;-) It should be: Even Satan himself is protected by our "biographies of living persons policy". TFOWR 13:10, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Él es el diablo! ^{[cita requerida]} - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 13:19, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

220.101, next time you turn up something like that by all means don't wait for me to get back online- it should have been blanked right away. My fault, though, for not putting it into Google translate- my, what a vindictive rant! TFOWR, would this fall under revdel? sonia♫ 20:14, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Sí, señorita Sonia. <[;-) — 220.101 talk^\Contribs 00:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

what I meant by "Good Wikipedian"

When I said "good Wikipedian" I meant that you don't vandalize things and stuff like that. I mean that you be good and don't do anything bad. If you don't understand what I said please discuss it on my talk page. —Preceding undated comment added 00:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC).

Hi again

It's me :) I have to do a project, to write about a municipality of Mexico and I am writing about Juchitepec, State of Mexico. Could you check it please? Thank you ALauBeltran (talk) 16:23, 29 September 2010 (UTC) Guess what guys,

I'm back and I'm here to stay. I haven't edited in a while but I decided to swing by so you guys know that you have your work cut out for you. And I'll be here again in exactly 14 hours.

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