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Heh, we crossed paths at the journal AfD. I was in the middle of implementing the same close as you. I didn't page swap because that would have improperly confused article histories, IMO, so I went with moving the page history to Talk:Journal/Attribution as an attribution subpage and blanking it. Merge and delete/the equivalent is difficult to do as a list of contributors when you have over 500 revisions, so I thought that was the most practical. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:22, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: I noticed. Feel free to implement the close if you already started, I didn't want to step on your toes there. :-) Regards SoWhy 15:23, 10 September 2018 (UTC)



I participated in the AfD you closed here: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bob_Tuke and I'm a little confused with your close, as I did review the new sources presented by the user who leaned keep and stated in the discussion I didn't think much of them along with one other user. Would you mind explaining your thought process behind the no consensus a little bit further? I don't mind the close, but thought it would have been a pretty clear delete based on the arguments presented. SportingFlyer talk 22:01, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

@SportingFlyer: Sure, no problem. You and Redditaddict69 were the only ones to revisit the AFD and discuss the sources. Since a number of people !voted "keep" and no one !voted "delete" after sources were presented, it was unclear whether the sources are enough to keep the article but it was also unclear whether the other delete !voters would have affirmed their !votes given the new arguments. Hence, there was no clear consensus whether the subject is sufficiently notable for inclusion. That said, I probably should have amended WP:NPASR to the close since the close was mostly based on the lack of further participation and discussion of the sources, something a new AFD might be able to resolve. Regards SoWhy 07:04, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Summer Lee[edit]

  • I am contacting you to request that you reopen Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Summer Lee. It closed as "non consensus" which , with 3 KEEP, 2 Delete, and 3 iVotes to DRAFTIFY the article on this political candidate who either will or will not be elected to a state legislature this fall was not unreasonable. I request that you reopen it for 2 reasons. One is that we have a bumper crop of candidate articles this summer and similar conversations on not-yet-elected candidates with no pre-existing notability are overwhelming closing at "delete." The other reason is that this conversation only ran for a week, and rolling an article over, sometimes even doing so twice, allows time for tempers ot cool and for more editors to participate - not infrequently producing a strong consensus. thanks for considering this.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:52, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I am making the same request for reopening on the same grounds for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Innamorato, where there were 3 Keep, 3 draftify, 2 delete, and 1 redirect opinions.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:01, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
    @E.M.Gregory: Both appear to be prime candidates for WP:ATD-M to me, so why not propose that instead? I fail to see how the project will benefit from removing these articles when the names are viable search terms and people can expect to find something about those subjects, even if it is only in the context of the election. Regards SoWhy 19:13, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Except for the fact that both are very likely to win in November. But if you think they should be merged - because at this point both are non-notable, never-elected candidates, I will go ahead and merge to the election page. E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:54, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
    Afaiaa, candidates are usually redirected or merged to election articles if they are not notable on their own, cf. WP:POLOUTCOMES. And ATD is not a one-way street. If they become notable, they can be spun back into their own articles. But as you indicate: If they are very likely to win, people are likely to look them up before the election and so it makes sense to mention them in this context. Regards SoWhy 20:09, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Hello, again. I have another question. User:JesseRafe, an editor who participated in the AfD, and who has been very active in adding to and deleting material from pages about Democratic Socialists of America candidates in recent weeks instantly un-merged both pages. I confess that it was the ongoing and widespread pattern of enthusiastic partisan editing this election season that had made me incline towards reopening the AfD in the hope of reaching a stronger consensus. I am turning to you now to ask what happens next.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:13, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
    @E.M.Gregory: I would suggest following the guidance at WP:PM. While an AFD can result in merge, it's essentially only for stuff that cannot be preserved in one form or another (cf. WP:PRESERVE) and this is not the case here. Regards SoWhy 05:58, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Re: Page deletion - Diamond Batiste[edit]

Hello, My page was delated by mistake. I'm new to Wikipedia so I may have not known exactly how to format the page however I'm willing the fix the misdates. This page belong to a actor and video director. Could you guide me into the approbate direction to get it back up and running and let me exactly who it was delated.

I've included the links to the page below. I look forward to hearing back from you.

--Dnfeemster (talk) 21:41, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

@Dnfeemster: Please contact the deleting administrator, TomStar81, instead. Regards SoWhy 14:35, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at WT:INTADMIN#Alternative_proposal,_quick_expiry_only[edit]

 You are invited to join the discussion at WT:INTADMIN#Alternative_proposal,_quick_expiry_only. Enterprisey (talk!) 08:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)