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::::: I would also like you to read [[Wikipedia:Citing sources#Convenience links]] as I think it is relevant. // [[User:Liftarn|Liftarn]] ([[User talk:Liftarn#top|talk]])
::::: I would also like you to read [[Wikipedia:Citing sources#Convenience links]] as I think it is relevant. // [[User:Liftarn|Liftarn]] ([[User talk:Liftarn#top|talk]])
:::::: Since these sites have a POV which is directly supported by the source we're squabbling over, I question the authenticity of the material hosted at those sites. Does the newletter exist? Probably. Is the newsletter accurately reproduced at the site; has the site refrained from "touching it up" to support its POV? I question that.<b>[[User:Jeremystalked|<span style="color:#fff;background:#080;">Jeremy</span>]][[User_talk:Jeremystalked|<span style="color:#080;">stalked</span>]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jeremystalked|<span style="color:#00a;">(law 296)</span>]]</sub></b> 16:09, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Since these sites have a POV which is directly supported by the source we're squabbling over, I question the authenticity of the material hosted at those sites. Does the newletter exist? Probably. Is the newsletter accurately reproduced at the site; has the site refrained from "touching it up" to support its POV? I question that.<b>[[User:Jeremystalked|<span style="color:#fff;background:#080;">Jeremy</span>]][[User_talk:Jeremystalked|<span style="color:#080;">stalked</span>]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jeremystalked|<span style="color:#00a;">(law 296)</span>]]</sub></b> 16:09, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Also, see [[WP:COPYLINK]]. If the newsletter 'is' actually authentic (I'm not saying it is) it doesn't seem that the newsletter is being hosted with the permission of the copyright holder.<b>[[User:Jeremystalked|<span style="color:#fff;background:#080;">Jeremy</span>]][[User_talk:Jeremystalked|<span style="color:#080;">stalked</span>]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jeremystalked|<span style="color:#00a;">(law 296)</span>]]</sub></b> 16:15, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


== Moving photos to Commons ==
== Moving photos to Commons ==

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Category:Muslim atheists, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 18:06, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chevrolet Volt

I take great offense at your labeling my recent edit as racist. Your charge is inaccurate and completely inappropriate.Ebikeguy (talk) 22:39, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You implied that a newspaper article was less reliable due to the etnicity of the journalist. What would you call it? // Liftarn (talk)
I did no such thing. You imagine offenses where none exist. Ebikeguy (talk) 13:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, perhaps I over-interpreted your edit[1]. // Liftarn (talk)
When only a single source of unverifiable RS is available (in a second language no less) it is not unusual to state "According to..." and that is how I believe the article should read, with no "ethnic" connotation 20:41, 2 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by WopOnTour (talkcontribs)
That is pure fantasy. Also see Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Svenska Dagbladet. // Liftarn (talk)

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Hello, Liftarn. You have new messages at Talk:JBA Cars.
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holysmoke.org is a personal site

http://holysmoke.org/kontact.htm

It's not a reliable source. Please find some other sources for your assertions.Jeremystalked(law 296) 04:47, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I do not use a personal site as a source. But Ok, have it your way then. // Liftarn (talk)
You can't link to personal sites either. WP:ELNO I've saved you the trouble of removing the link.Jeremystalked(law 296) 11:58, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not add that site again, either as an external link, or as a source. Final friendly reminder. Jeremystalked(law 296) 21:24, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That type of threats useually come with an "...or else". Per WP:EL it is perfectly acceptable. Actually per WP:ELYES it is even encourages, and I quote "An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a copy of the work". If that don't suits you it is still Ok according to WP:ELMAYBE since it "contain information about the subject of the article". We could also link to http://www.skepticfiles.org/ccin/ that also hosts the newsletters, but the formatting is rather awful there. // Liftarn (talk)
skepticfiles.org is also a personal site. WP:ELNO and WP:SPS apply. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremystalked (talkcontribs) 23:53, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it is of no relevance since it is only used to host the files. Anyway I have removed the external links and I hopy you can be kind enough not to remove references. // Liftarn (talk)
I've brought it up at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard#Personal sites hosting files. // Liftarn (talk)
I would also like you to read Wikipedia:Citing sources#Convenience links as I think it is relevant. // Liftarn (talk)
Since these sites have a POV which is directly supported by the source we're squabbling over, I question the authenticity of the material hosted at those sites. Does the newletter exist? Probably. Is the newsletter accurately reproduced at the site; has the site refrained from "touching it up" to support its POV? I question that.Jeremystalked(law 296) 16:09, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also, see WP:COPYLINK. If the newsletter 'is' actually authentic (I'm not saying it is) it doesn't seem that the newsletter is being hosted with the permission of the copyright holder.Jeremystalked(law 296) 16:15, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moving photos to Commons

Hi, Liftarn. You recently moved a couple of photos of mine to Commons. Thank you. Anyway, I'm curious how you did it. Did you do it by hand or is there an easier way now? Also, the fotos still exist on Wikipedia. Will they eventually get auto-removed or do we have to prod them? Jason Quinn (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I use CommonsHelper. It's a lot easier than doing it bu hand. Especially if you use CommonsHelper Helper. The photos will be deleted after an admin checks them to verify they have been moved correctly. // Liftarn (talk) 18:37, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]


The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I think you should be awarded this barnstar (and more) for your never ending efford to move photos to Commons where they can be used by the whole world. Thank you! MGA73 (talk) 13:52, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

By the way. If you know how to use a bot there is a special bot that makes it easier to move files with a PD-self and other self-licenses to Commons. --MGA73 (talk) 13:52, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I think CommonsHelper (mentioned above) fixes that. // Liftarn (talk)
Yes almost but it does not fix all - you have do do some manual work like removing bot check template and cleanup like [2] to get the same result as with the "new bot". For example commons:File:Front Entrance Of The Bay Academy.jpg has not been changed after upload and the file was renamed during transfer [3] :-D --MGA73 (talk) 20:03, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice, but unless there have been some breakthrough in AI technology a human still needs to check the categories. But the bot check template often feels unnecessary. // Liftarn (talk)
Thats true. But you can do that during the transfer. The bot gives you a preview and if it is ok you just press ok and the bot will do the rest. If it is not ok you can add the relevant categories and change information before hitting ok. The best part is that the bot can load several description pages while you are checking categories/info (or getting coffee) if you are transfering a lot of images (example all images in a category) so often it only takes a second from you hit ok or skip on one image before the next one is ready. --MGA73 (talk) 19:45, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds very convenient. Interesting... // Liftarn (talk)