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{{talkback|EEng}} and also, as requested there, please take a look at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Samuel_Eliot_Morison#OR_transferred_to_Talk] while you're at it.
{{talkback|EEng}} and also, as requested there, please take a look at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Samuel_Eliot_Morison#OR_transferred_to_Talk] while you're at it.

== Robert Lenkiewicz page ==

Hello Rrburke, I would be gratefull if you would not remove the name/s I have added to the page. If you need online proof that I was a former student of Robert's, please see: http://www.robertlenkiewicz.org/lenkiewiczs-students. Many thanks, Joe Stoneman.

Revision as of 20:07, 3 January 2011

Please post new messages at the bottom of my talk page. Please use headlines when starting new talk topics. Thank you.

Apart from the self promotion angle, the article was also lifted in its entirety from the news website linked as a source. I deleted the article as a blatant copyvio and warned the user. --GraemeL (talk) 15:06, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Missed that. I'd kind of given up the task of searching for new article copy-and-pastes to the CorenSearchBot, which always seems to get there first. Thanks. -- Rrburke (talk) 18:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, keep tagging and we'll keep bagging. --GraemeL (talk) 18:37, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Big Business (UK Soul Band)

Hello Rrburke. I am just letting you know that I deleted Big Business (UK Soul Band), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 00:09, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why me?

Oh, tricks are just fine, thanks. Apparently, I have incurred the wrath of yet another new user who didn't read the rules.  :) Thanks for the alert. PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:57, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

I would just like to thank you on getting a page I created on an Australian band called Chambers of Insanity deleted. Hours of work wasted. 11:31, 24 December, 2010 (AEST). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldmateadz (talkcontribs) 00:42, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's important not to take deletions personally. Not all topics are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, and in my opinion these articles didn't make a plausible claim to satisfying Wikipedia's notability requirements. To better understand what criteria are used in deciding whether a topic is sufficiently noteworthy to be included in Wikipedia, please see:
If you disagree with the deletion, you can challenge it at Wikipedia:Deletion review. However, as it's also not considered appropriate to use Wikipedia to promote your band, yourself or your friends, even if these topics were to be judged suitable for Wikipedia, you yourself would be expected to avoid editing the articles about them

. For more information, please see:

-- Rrburke (talk) 16:11, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see from the contribution history that the article was created on October 27, 2009... 14 months ago... and that its author did no other editing until creating the Jeff Bobo article on December 15, 2010. Is it your thought that User:GreasyCreek12345 is in fact the film's publicist Jeff Bobo? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 23:28, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Michael. That's actually why I excluded the Times News pieces in trying to judge whether the subject met WP:GNG: they appeared to be by the film's publicist. I saw the Variety review, but it was only a single paragraph. The Dread Central and Bloody Disgusting "reviews" are just as short, of sub-professional quality -- and one seems to have been cribbed from the other anyway. The film's inclusion in the Anaheim International Film Festival, an event in its inaugural year, didn't seem to me to establish the film's notability. I just didn't see anything that approached significant coverage. -- Rrburke (talk) 15:46, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your excluding Times News night have been a bit presumptive, as even a little research shows Jeff Bobo AS a real journalist, and not simply some online amateur... specially as we can find articles authored by him for many years as a staff writer and reporter for the hardcopy The Harlan Daily Enterprise examples:199619971998 and he was writing as a staffer for the hardcopy Kingsport Times News for 4 years [1] before they began their online Times News and encouraged amateurs to submit articles. So he IS verifiable as a real journalist. In good faith, I cannot somehow discredit his articles that appear in their online version. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 22:43, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again, Michael. Even if these articles appeared in the print edition of the paper -- which I tend to doubt, but no matter -- they would still not be useful for the purpose of establishing notability, because WP:GNG specifies "reliable sources that are independent of the subject" (emphasis mine), and these articles by the film's publicist are the opposite of independent. An article by the film's publicist is, to my mind, roughly the equivalent of a press release, and such sources are specifically excluded by WP:GNG as unsuitable for the purpose of establishing notability.
Moreover, as the Times News permits users to create their own articles, there is really no way of knowing which of its articles are self-published sources, hence the online edition of the paper lacks the kind of editorial oversight that would qualify it as a reliable source -- that is, a "source[] with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" (WP:RS#Overview). Cheers. -- Rrburke (talk) 15:05, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for deleting my hours of work. Do you know VBA ? Whether yes or no, can you judge the importance of an article. If needed you can delete the reference but not the article(VBA Coding Best Practices) that I added. Be human, don't work like a bot. Sorry for sounding rude, I don't have any personal grudges with you. If not undeletion, a good explanation can definitely calm me down. Open Excel (talk) 18:04, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since removing material not attributed to a reliable source doesn't require any knowledge of the subject matter, what I know about VBA is immaterial. The issue is this: all content added to Wikipedia must be based on material previously published in reliable sources. Like other self-published sources, blogs are (with very few exceptions) not considered reliable. Unpublished material, or things you know from your own experience, are also not suitable for inclusion. If you can find the same material published in a reliable source, please feel free to re-add it -- with the appropriate citation of the source.
Incidentally, the material you added was not deleted: it remains in the article history (see [2] for a permanent link). If you have trouble recovering it, please let me know and I will be happy to help.
For more information on Wikipedia's standards for information added to articles, please see:
-- Rrburke (talk) 18:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, Rrburke. You have new messages at EEng's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

and also, as requested there, please take a look at [3] while you're at it.

Robert Lenkiewicz page

Hello Rrburke, I would be gratefull if you would not remove the name/s I have added to the page. If you need online proof that I was a former student of Robert's, please see: http://www.robertlenkiewicz.org/lenkiewiczs-students. Many thanks, Joe Stoneman.