Talk:Raining Men (Rihanna song)

Single

I know in some discussions at WP:SONGS, it was concluded that radio add dates determined US only singles, even if they do not have single covers or have music videos (i.e. Like a Surgeon, Love in This Club Part II, and Until the End of Time (Justin Timberlake song)), Slow Dance (song). Shouldn't this be as well? Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 02:42, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Update here are some of the discussions Talk:Bionic_(Christina_Aguilera_album)#.27You_Lost_Me.27_next_single.2C_Not_.27WooHoo.27, Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Songs/Archive_4#Singles_release_date_is_when_FIRST_being_SOLD_as_a_Single.2C_NOT_Radio_Airplay, I know there were some more, because it was a big debate issue on the musicscape of Wikipedia around last year this time. Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 02:58, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Agree -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 17:00, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm unsure. I mean, this could be the same situation as "Hard". I say we should call it a single, until we have proof otherwise. ℥^nding·start 16:05, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

If the song had blown up on urban radio and made the Hot 100, people would be rushing to label it a single. But when a song doesn't chart well people think it should be make it a promo or a just a song just because it wasn't a hit, and that's not justice. Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 23:23, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Well since our friend Nicky88 hasn't responded I'm going to propose its changed back to single. There is no evidence to say its a promo single. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 16:08, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I strongly believe that releasing a song to radio does not make it a single. The best example is Put It in a Love Song, which is also qualified as single in Wikipedia. Airplay is not a suitable format. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:42, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Jivesh... that deosn't make sense because that song was sent to radio! -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 19:35, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Agree It is definitely the only way to tell if a song is released in the US. --Cprice1000talk2me 17:52, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Not Single

Raining Men is not a single it is a promotional single. The third single from Loud is S&M —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.188.132.87 (talk) 04:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Bored... where is the source to say its promotional? Read the post above and links to previous discussions. *yawn*, -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 04:43, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

LOL Unique. Comments like this from IP users annoy me as well. :L ℥^nding·start 17 January 2011 (UTC)

There is no artwork, no music video, and no other charts. Besides that was it even released as a digital download? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelB722 (talk • contribs) 19:32, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Attempt to read the previous discussion and those archives before you come blabbing about what isn't. Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 19:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Rihanna said her "third" single from her album Loud will Be S&M with an unexpected music video,not her forth Single. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apple48 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Lady Gaga also said that The Fame Monster was her second album. Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 01:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

If she intended it to be her third single then why did she send "Raining Men" to radio before "S&M". The facts speak for themselves. Its more likely that "Raining Me" was released and because it stalled on the airplay charts plans were pulled before any further promotions were planned. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 02:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)