Talk:Nafplio

How is "Napoli di Romana" "Naples of the Greeks"? Since when does "Romana" = "Greek"? RickK 22:21, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)

Until relatively recently, the Greeks referred to themselves as "Romaioi," -- "Romans," as did most other Balkan Christians. This is a legacy of the Byzantine Empire in Constantinople, "New Rome." The Venetians who traded with and later ruled the people of Nafplio knew them as "Romaioi" or "Romani." Joe

I deleted in history the mention about the floods, because it is not a great historic event of Nafplio, we can write other things first.

The list of Argolis municipalities at the bottom contains a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykines, which is one of the Faroer islands. The link should point to "Mykenes, Greece". I don't know how to correct that; the Argolis category seems to be OK.

Name

Please don't say that Nauplia is used in English to redognize the Ottoman or Venetian presence in Greece; it's standard usage in histories of the Greek Revolution, for example; and this dates from 1898, when Greece was not under the Turk. JCScaliger 04:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

The proper name for the place is the Official one "Nauplio", not "Nafplion". Even Google has 5 times more references for Nauplio than the "-n" version. See also Yahoo maps, Garmin maps, Nokia maps etc. So pleaaaase, don't try to change the language when you are not aware of it. I think the place should have its proper, official, most often used, most recognized name and wiki writers should not use other conventions. 18Dec2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.212.164 (talk) 09:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Actually my Google search turned up over 200,000 hits on this title, less than 30,000 on your suggestion. Then there's this page, that says "Welcome to our Town" - http://www.nafplionet.net/main1.htm . We use the most common name in English normally, and I don't think you've made a good argument here. Dougweller (talk) 11:02, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Interesting argument Dougweller. But:

- My google search turns 1,050,000 results on "nafplio" and only 225,000 on "nafplion" meaning that your r wrong or google gives different number of items on different countries. Also, only in english language, "nafplio" 237000, "nafplion" 119000.

- Nafplionet is not the municipality's site, but anyway it is writing "nafplio". The municipality's site is www.nafplio.gr. You can also check official cultural map of Greece by the ministry of culture http://odysseus.culture.gr/map/CulturalMap_en/cultural_map_en.html , the regional government's official site http://www.peloponnisos-region.com/en_contents.asp?category=32 etc.

So, as "we use the most common name in English normally" this the page has soon to move to the proper name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.38.155.178 (talk) 07:39, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

No one objects, redirecting to Nafplio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.166.133.224 (talk) 09:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

For the one that has redirected "Nafplio" here: Please respect the rules. Please use the proper name of the place! Blind changes only show force, they do not constitute arguments! If you disagree, first discuss your points here before acting. The use of the proper name was set here, no one objected for a month, then was redirected, then without a word, back to the old again.(23jan11)

Venice at Nafplion.

Nafplion was taken by the troops of Venice (commanders: Francesco Morosini and Philipp Christian Königsmarck)in 1686 (August). The town (called "Napoli di Romania") became capital of "Morea" (Peloponnese). Just here died Francesco Morosini in 1694. In 1715 a Turkish army of 95,000 men, under Ali Kumurji, attacked the Venetian Peloponnese, defended by 7,000 soldiers under Governor Alessandro Bon. On July 11, 1715 about 70,000 Turks started the siege of Nafplion, defended by 1,747 soldiers (General Zacco and Colonel Cardosi). Helped by a French traitor (La Salle), the Turks took the town on July 18-20. A pityless massacre followed!

New Link

A wikipedian considered this link http://www.vr-nafplio.gr/index.asp as spam. It is not, it is a website established by the Nafplio municipality and other agencies as information for the town. Therefore, in my opinion, this link should stay. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 154.20.158.225 (talk) 04:10, 28 December 2006 (UTC).

I agree. 18Dec2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.212.164 (talk) 09:18, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Nauplion

"in Ancient Greek Ναύπλιον (thus the transliteration Nafplion)." This isn't really that transparent. Is there a nationalist issue with the transliteration? --Wetman 01:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Not nationalist so far as I can see; it's a transliteration of an ancient Greek form of the name (a form which has also been used in katharevousa modern Greek) based on the modern Greek pronunciation. Seems OK. However, the alternative Ναύπλιων, which was perhaps added since your note, can't be right: the accentuation is impossible in ancient Greek.

I've just asked for a citation for the statement that the Latin name was Nauplion. I can't find this in any texts. I would have expected Nauplia or Nauplium. Andrew Dalby 20:23, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

There are no train services anymore

I stay in Nafplio, and there are no train services anymore from/to Athens by OSE. There are only regular bus services to/from Athens by KTEL (www.ktel-argolidas.gr). I tried to correct it by it is considered vandalism and although i love wikipedia, i am at work and there is simply not enough time to read, understand and follow the instructions in order to correct the mistake. can anybody do it?

thanks. antoni, Nafplio, Greece

There is regular train service to and from Nafplio since 2009 (today is Nov 2010) If interested, see details in relevant WikiTravel article.

So the previous, under this title, has to be REMOVED as major misinformation.

We need reliable sources, see WP:RS, and I'm afraid right or not, an editor's experience can't be used. On the other hand, this isn't a travel guide so it doesn't need to be in the article and this page is not the article. Dougweller (talk) 10:57, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Again Dougweller: as you saw above, the reliable source was wikiTravel, which was mentioning and hyperlinking to Trainose, the greek train corporation. If this article mentions any transport means, buses for example, i can see absolutely no reason why it should not mention trains. Personal preferences to transport means do not have a place here. But.. in the meanwhile.. an accident has stopped temporarily the line.. so it can be like it is for the time. 24dec2010

Wikitravel is not a reliable source according to our criteria. Dougweller (talk) 10:09, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Trainose, the only train operator in Greece, is not reliable source according to your criteria? And how about buses? are there any sources about them in the article? why they were not deleted??? I wouldn't object for deletion of travel means if it is for all, if transport info is not in the general mood, which i can very well understand. 24dec2010