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McIntire does not make this claim that I could see in the article. I could have missed it, but I don't think he compares AA with other therapies at all and just concentrates on his interpretation of the survey statistics.[[User:Desoto10|Desoto10]] ([[User talk:Desoto10|talk]]) 03:11, 23 December 2010 (UTC) |
McIntire does not make this claim that I could see in the article. I could have missed it, but I don't think he compares AA with other therapies at all and just concentrates on his interpretation of the survey statistics.[[User:Desoto10|Desoto10]] ([[User talk:Desoto10|talk]]) 03:11, 23 December 2010 (UTC) |
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Don McIntyre looked at the AA survey and his book showed that there was 81 percent left in the first month by month three is was close to 91 percent, what Mcintyre did for reasons of his own was to exclude these people from the sample and come up with new percentages. This should be noted for the wiki reader, It is not up to the reader to have to research and correct misleading accounts by ommission. |
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Using a source from three unnamed authors, from a unpublished paper, which is POV does not meet wiki standards for reliable sources and it should be deleted from this page. |
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[[User:Jayseer|Jayseer]] ([[User talk:Jayseer|talk]]) 01:24, 26 January 2011 (UTC) |
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Recovery Outcome Rates: Contemporary Myth and Misinterpretation
I don't see the issue with this article being that it is or is not a reliable source, but rather than information from it is not used as it is not a reliable source. Stating that a self-published article was written and citing that article is not violating WP:RS, WP:V or WP:NOR in any way that I'm aware of since I last read them. -- Scarpy (talk) 23:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
- Please stop the edit warring. This is getting really, really, really old. -- Scarpy (talk) 01:50, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Unsourced claim of comparison between AA and other therapies
I removed the following:
- an adherence rate that would be comparable to, or better than, those found in studies of other addiction therapy treatments[1].
McIntire does not make this claim that I could see in the article. I could have missed it, but I don't think he compares AA with other therapies at all and just concentrates on his interpretation of the survey statistics.Desoto10 (talk) 03:11, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
---The use of non reliable sources for this article and information taken out of context in other source material==
Don McIntyre looked at the AA survey and his book showed that there was 81 percent left in the first month by month three is was close to 91 percent, what Mcintyre did for reasons of his own was to exclude these people from the sample and come up with new percentages. This should be noted for the wiki reader, It is not up to the reader to have to research and correct misleading accounts by ommission.
Using a source from three unnamed authors, from a unpublished paper, which is POV does not meet wiki standards for reliable sources and it should be deleted from this page. Jayseer (talk) 01:24, 26 January 2011 (UTC)