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Grigoris Koukotsikas

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This person is only mentioned in a speech of a politician, and speeches of politicians are not reliable sources, nor they are enough to prove the notability of people. Couldn't find any reliable sources on the topic, enough to prove the notability. Seksen iki yüz kırk beş (talk) 12:15, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Delete See above for his wife Alexia --AJHingston (talk) 13:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
• Keep meets WP:GNG. There are many references in the Greek language media that confirm notability when checking for alternate spellings of his surname.  Nipsonanomhmata  ^(Talk) 14:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Still it is not confirmed by reliable, non-Greek or non-politician sources, unlike Eleni Foka. Moreover, I wonder whether any further information can be found on this person, as AJHingston has said. --Seksen iki yüz kırk beş (talk) 14:19, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Why are there two articles? Edison (talk) 15:03, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:BLP1E. Also lacks demonstration of substantial coverage in multiple reliable and independent sources, as required by WP:N. Also delete per WP:NOTNEWS, even if the politician's speech was echoed by the newspapers for a news cycle. Getting mentioned by a politician does not demonstrate notability. Known only for being displaced from one's home? Not notable. Edison (talk) 15:03, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Have added a number of sources since you made your recommendation. Moreover, not just known for being displaced from his home. He was a schoolteacher, one of only three schoolteachers at the only school for the Greek community in Northern Cyprus, who was prevented from returning to the school that they teach at by the occupation regime.  Nipsonanomhmata  ^(Talk) 15:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

The Cypriot Financial Mirror newspaper has recorded that as recently as September 2008, the government of Northern Cyprus has prevented schoolteachers from returning to the primary school in Rizokarpaso. This is not about Koukotsikas. Those references are unreliable as I can see. Rizokarpason.com is a commercial website, and as it says "For a free Rizokarpaso", its obvious POV can be seen at the very first place. Makarios Drousiotis is not a reliable source either, and he even says "The enslaved at Karpas", his POV is obvious. Typos.com.cy also looks like an unreliable source in this case. And this article is still against WP:BLP1E, Being in the news does not in itself mean that someone should be the subject of a Wikipedia article. If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having an article on them. Biographies in these cases can give undue weight to the event and conflict with neutral point of view. This person is only in the context of one single event, the couple did not take the issue to the ECHR etc., and this event was reported in the news, naturally, but was not covered so widely. And being a schoolteacher does not make someone notable. --Seksen iki yüz kırk beş (talk) 16:19, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Being one of only three Greek primary schoolteachers who is prevented from teaching at the only Greek community primary school by a Turkish occupation government is notable. The Financial Mirror article shows that the problem that this teacher suffered was not an isolated incident and is relevant. Rizokarpason.com is not a commercial website (it is a community website using a .com domain name). You claim that Typos.com.cy "also looks like an unreliable source" (that is POV). Makarios Drousiotis is a professional journalist and he is perfectly within his rights in calling the people of Rizokarpos enslaved since they have continuously suffered under the occupation regime (including censorship of what schoolbooks that they could use, including unvoluntary slave labor see Human rights in Northern Cyprus, and the population of Rizokarpaso which was 20,000 after the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974 has dwindled down to a couple of hundred because of the restrictions and hardships inflicted upon them the Turkish occupation government, which has discriminated against them to force them to leave the occupied territory. The issue was raised at the European Parliament and has been translated in to all European languages. Moreover, his wife is also a teacher at the same school and was also prevented from returning to the Rizokarpaso enclave thus preventing the "right of education" to Greek Cypriot schoolchildren in occupied northern Cyprus. What happened to this school teacher and his wife, who is also a schoolteacher, cannot be described as a single event since Turkey has systematically prevented Greek schoolteachers from going to Rizokarpaso in order to assimilate what is left of the Greek population.  Nipsonanomhmata  ^(Talk) 16:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Redirect and Merge content to Enclaved Greek Cypriots, and do the same thing for Eleni Foka. I agree with Edison that WP:BLP1E applies. --Doktor Plumbi (talk) 17:16, 6 May 2011 (UTC)