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Institution of Business Administration, Karachi

A reference to Institute of Business Administration, Karachi, should be made. Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz is a product of this institution, which has also produced a number of key ranking individuals working in the country and overseas.

Well, this article is about IBA of Dhaka University, not IBA Karachi, so that reference or trivia is irrelevant. I am removing it and also moving the article to IBA, Dhaka. You can add that info by starting the article on IBA, Karachi. Thanks. --Ragib 18:14, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Why have someone added a controversy section? NSU doesn't have one, though we want them too. This section is irrelevant for IBA. Esha Karim (talk) 04:58, 11 May 2011 (UTC) Controversy section is not needed in IBA article. PLEASE DO NOT ADD THIS SECTION AGAIN. SPECIALLY NOT FROM ANONYMOUS IP ADDRESSES. Esha Karim (talk) 03:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

about controversy section

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The controversy section that has been added is a valid controversy and well referenced and well documented. There are other universities which have subheadings related to controversies and it includes a wikipage just related to the controversies.For example University of Bristol had a major admissions controversy and it has been included in its main wikipage.Some other examples are DePauw University which was engulfed in the Deta Zeta controversy.Please check 1.2.3 Section of UoB and 4.3 of DePauw University.There are many such examples.

An institution that has a teacher/professor arrested for terrorism charges and the organization was banned by the government of the country which the institution operates (in this case Bangladesh) should find itself mentioned in the Wikipage to ensure neutral opinion. Also Esha Karim's excuse that NSU doesnt have any controversy , so why should IBA have..is not a valid reason. Also Esha Karim you can be nominated for WP:COI( or conflict of interest) and if you delete the entry the next time, I will nominate the user as COI and put the article under scrutiny of Wiki peers to verify the originality of the statement and remove the unreferenced sections.Since it is against Wiki laws to reveal a author's identity or the institution he comes from, I wont do that as it violates the editor's real life identity. Check Wikipedia:OUTING

Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy states that all articles must represent views fairly and without bias, and conflicts of interest may significantly and negatively affect Wikipedia's ability to fulfill this requirement. If your financially motivated edits would be non-neutral, do not post them.

So I hope you dont delete the controversy section again.If you do so ,I will nominate the article on WP:COIN where experienced Wiki editors will read the case and edit accordingly.Please read the following, Shortcuts: WP:COIC WP:COI compliance As of now,I think i have given substantial evidence on whatever opinion was necessary and i hope the page remains.(Dualumni (talk) 15:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC))[reply]

The controversy section is controversial here. We want to make a standard here. While public institutions like DU, RU and IBA will have controversy section, why won't NSU have one. IBA does not need a controversy section. Please do not add this section. If you want it so bad, open a page for Mohiuddin Ahmed and add that he is an IBA professor there. And about ensuring neutrality, why don't you add the rape incident to NSU page? Esha Karim (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:19, 14 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Moreover, Mohiuddin Ahmed was also a part time teacher of NSU, BRAC U, EWU and a full time teacher of Eastern Uni. Why don't you write the same controversy in their pages? Double standard is not acceptable. Again I'm saying, controversy section here is not needed. If you want to add this info, open a page on Mohiuddin Ahmed, mention that he was an IBA teacher there. Esha Karim (talk) 14:32, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Then again, letting go all the private universities of Bangladesh as if they don't have any controversies, what kind of NPOV is that?Esha Karim (talk) 14:41, 14 May 2011 (UTC) "If your financially motivated edits would be non-neutral, do not post them." You have attacked me personally. What is your motivation here?Esha Karim (talk) 14:48, 14 May 2011 (UTC) Just read the articles that DUALUMNI mentioned. In the example of University of Bristle, the university administration was related to the controversy. Then again, The DePauw university scandal also related to students and administration. Now there is NO RELATION OF IBA ADMIN OR STUDENTS with what Mohiuddin Ahmed did. So, again I will request that if this info is to be added, it is to be added on a page about Mohiuddin ahmed, not IBA. Esha Karim (talk) 15:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to Esha. "If your financially motivated edits would be non-neutral, do not post them".Don't get over excited.You are defining the rules of Wikipedia here itself. And about the sentence, I have copy pasted this from Wiki's NPOV policy.You can check if you want to.And the reasons you have added or are adding are not reasons enough to not keep the section.Being a respectable institute that IBA is it defies any logic why even after sanctions imposed by the Govt of Bangladesh,he was still on his post and the reasons that he was part time professor in EWU or NSU as you have mentioned is no logic . Dualumni (talk) 15:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 As of now,I think i have given substantial evidence on whatever opinion was necessary and i hope the page remains.([[User:Dualumni|Dualumni]] ([[User talk:Dualumni|talk]]) 15:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC))
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 "If your financially motivated edits would be non-neutral, do not post them." You have attacked me personally. What is your motivation here?[[User:Esha795|Esha Karim]] ([[User talk:Esha795|talk]]) 14:48, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
 Just read the articles that DUALUMNI mentioned. In the example of University of Bristle, the university administration was related to the controversy. Then again, The DePauw university scandal also related to students and administration. Now there is NO RELATION OF IBA ADMIN OR STUDENTS with what Mohiuddin Ahmed did. So, again I will request that if this info is to be added, it is to be added on a page about Mohiuddin ahmed, not IBA. [[User:Esha795|Esha Karim]] ([[User talk:Esha795|talk]]) 15:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
+Reply to Esha. "If your financially motivated edits would be non-neutral, do not post them".Don't get over excited.You are defining the rules of Wikipedia here itself. And about the sentence, I have copy pasted this from Wiki's NPOV policy.You can check if you want to.And the reasons you have added or are adding are not reasons enough to not keep the section.Being a respectable institute that IBA is it defies any logic why even after sanctions imposed by the Govt of Bangladesh,he was still on his post and the reasons that he was part time professor in EWU or NSU as you have mentioned is no logic .  [[User:Dualumni|Dualumni]] ([[User talk:Dualumni|talk]]) 15:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC)