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Question: What is a "superhit" and who gets to make that judgment?[edit]

Greetings, WikiProject Bangladesh! I've been cleaning up a number of Bangladeshi film articles in recent days and I keep coming across claims that certain movies were "superhits". At first I thought this was just a subjective opinion on the part of an editor, but I've also been encountering the phrase, "it was declared a superhit." In fact, if you look at the page for Apu Biswas, her filmography includes classifications of the "hit" status of her movies: average hit, hit, superhit, etc.

My question is: is this just a subjective piece of Bangladeshi (or more broadly, Bengali) film terminology, or is there some trade organization in Bangladesh that actually certifies these movies as hits, superhits, etc? I ask this because I want to know if claims that a movie was a "superhit" are subjective opinions (which I would think should be deleted from the articles where they appear) or if this is a more objective statement. Thank you to anyone who can clear this up for me. Tigercompanion25 (talk) 22:24, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Edits by SheriffIsInTown[edit]

User:SheriffIsInTown is going around Bangladesh-related articles and removing anything he considers "anti-Pakistan". This includes replacing the accepted facts of the 1971 Bangladesh genocide. I'm currently too preoccupied with real life issues to monitor his every move, but someone has to take note of his extensive POV-pushing.--Akbar the Great (talk) 09:04, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Instead of keep on removing this comment, it will be better to focus on real problem. As per whatever little experience I had with Sheriff, I don't think that Akbar is wrong here. But he should raise this issue at WP:AE, that will be better. Sheriff has been already notified for sanctions regarding articles he edits. He should edit carefully. --Human3015TALK  19:13, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Like how, carefully? I did not expect such a blanket statement from such an experienced Wikipedian. How about you identify the edits which i did not do carefully? Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:19, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
This is really not blanket, I already told you few things on your talk page in past. I don't want to repeat it. Still just to repeat one thing, your edit summary like Gandu on featured article is still unjustifiable in any case. Thats why I said to be careful while editing. There is not much wrong if you have pro-Pakistani POV, there are many highly experienced users who have Pro-Pakistani or Pro-Indian POV. Leave about that abusive edit summary but your overall behaviour is such that you don't want anything should be written against Pakistan. This will not happen. If anyone want that anything should not be written against India or Bangladesh still that will also not happen. You should be little flexible and should be brave enough to accept some facts. If Akbar posted about you to get attention of some users then its ok. --Human3015TALK  20:01, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
You already addressed that summary line with me at my talk page and i explained why i did that so i am not sure why you are highlighting that again. Wikipedia is a learning process and i was still learning at that time and am still learning now. Your assessment about my overall behavior is wrong that i don't want anything written against Pakistan. I have provided policy based reasons for my edits most of the time and my issue with Akbar the Great was based on policy reasons. You are welcome to write anything you want against Pakistan but if it does not fall on Wikipedia's policies then that will not happen as well. My main objection about edits of Akbar the Great was that what he was putting in those articles, it was not according to the source he was providing and those edits happen to be anti-Pakistan because his main area of work is promoting Bangladesh and maligning Pakistan so off course if i would object to any part of his edit, i will show up as Pro-Pakistan. There is also ownership issue with this user. It seems like he thinks he owns all Bangladesh related articles and a Pakistani should not work on those articles. I have had lengthy discussions with him at my Talk page and anytime i have had any discussion with him, the result was more aggravation. You are not completely aware of all the circumstances. This is not just one occurrence of him accusing me of "POV-pushing", he has done that before at several occasions. Not just facts, I am brave enough to accept whatever is properly sourced whether its a fact or not. Answer to your last point, i don't have problem with him posting about me to get attention of some users, my problem is the way he posted and the way he framed me as a POV-pusher and has been doing previously as well, also check out User talk:SheriffIsInTown#Restoration of personal attack to see a couple of those past occasions. Template:RPA is for these types of messages which has personal attacks in them and i applied it because i considered it a personal attack. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 21:14, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Standard offer request for Bazaan[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Standard offer request for Bazaan. Thanks. Worldbruce (talk) 18:00, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Category/ies being gutted?[edit]

I wonder if there is a technical solution to this problem. A page was recently removed from a category that I believe has real-world importance as a resource, and I've started a discussion at Talk:Centre_for_Law_and_Mediation_(Bangladesh)#NGO, not built by political parties. Now I wonder how to find out what other pages might have been removed from that category. Does anyone know of tools that could help? I believe that if a category is added to one's watch list, the only changes that appear are actual edits to the category encoding, that pages added to the category or removed will not be listed. Perhaps, of course, the real problem is that wikipedia categories are too flaky to be relied on in the real world, and we need to set up List of NGOs in Bangladesh instead. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:14, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

@Sminthopsis84: You may find illuminating. My reading of it is that for ten years people have wanted a way to watch for removals from categories. It seems to be regarded as technically difficult, but not impossible, so someday we may see a technical solution. Until then you may want a list. Worldbruce (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you very much @Worldbruce:! For those skilled in mediawiki matters there is also Mediawiki CategoryWatch, but apparently it is not technically supported. The problem here is, of course, that a knowledgeable person is needed to set the list up, without having the category entries available to work from. Perhaps there are many other categories that need to be converted to lists as soon as possible! Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:37, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

So I've made a small start on List of non-governmental organizations in Bangladesh with much more to come as I have time. Perhaps it can co-exist with the category: the category provides some interlinking between the various pages, and the list provides a way to monitor these matters. It turns out that it is automatically linked from Template:Asia_topic, called from the lists that exist for other countries. Ideas about how it can be better integrated into this project would be welcome. Also, if an administrator sees this, could the page be pre-emptively partial protected? Judging by the number of talk pages of anons that link to the lists for other countries, this will be prone to spurious changes from IPs. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:53, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Library resource[edit]

I recently noticed a link to a new resource, in a WP:TWL newsletter or similar page.

(I have almost no ability to read Bengali, although I have learned and re-learned the Bengali alphabet a few times.)
Wavelength (talk) 15:55, 28 February 2016 (UTC)


Wikiproject Bangladesh lekha soho Flag-map of Bangladesh.svg

Hi all, I'm planning to propose a poster for Wikiproject Bangladesh in the upcoming Wikimania. By default, the poster template requires a logo for the project so I initially requested Aftab to create this. I'd like some opinions on this whether I should use it or not / if you have a cool idea please feel free to share. Best, ~ Nahid Talk 18:06, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Correct Bengali spelling of name Samir?[edit]

I believe that the Bengali form of the name Samir, given in that article as সামির, was misspelled. I did some research and changed it, correctly I believe, to সমীর. But although I am a linguist I don't know Bangla, and this should be checked by someone who does. Please see Talk:Samir#Bengali spelling for discussion. --Thnidu (talk) 21:24, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

RfC: Addition of sourced content about violence against Biharis and different points of view about figures of people killed and women raped / Removal of unsourced content[edit]

Please comment at Talk:1971 Bangladesh genocide#RfC: Addition of sourced content about violence against Biharis and different points of view about figures of people killed and women raped / Removal of unsourced content Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 16:25, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Pakistani POV pushers[edit]

The above users belongs to a club of Pakistani POV pushers, who wants to show that Pakistan Army were the good guys and Mukti Bahini were the bad guys. They are working together to promote preposterous theories sourced from Pakistani websites and Pakistani writers. Pakistan Army came to rescue the Bihari women from being raped by Mukti Bahini, Indian Army and Mukti Bahini were involved in mass rapes.

Mass removal of content, large scale POV pushing to make Wikipedia look like a Pakistani encyclopaedia. They are spreading their propaganda all over Bangladesh related articles, Rape during the Bangladesh Liberation War, 1971 Bangladesh genocide, Bangladesh Liberation War, Mukti Bahini. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:54, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes, there is clearly a problem. The solution, though, is not edit-warring, but to carefully document the bad behaviour and to propose topic bans for those editors. It is necessary to keep in mind that administrators are not content editors, so when proposing a topic ban (which will be evaluated by administrators) the evidence must be about bad behaviour, not about content. Also keep in mind that the history of those pages is still available, so vandalism can be reverted. P.S.: that particular example of mass removal of content was not completely wrong, some of the content was not very good, though the person went too far in claiming that some parts were "irrelevant" and in saying that some parts were unsourced when the sources were there as external links. I've added different content now. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:05, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
@Sminthopsis84: External links are not considered as sources automatically, you need to apply them to the content they support. You cannot just leave them anywhere in the article and claim that whole article was supported by them. You did a good job adding them properly now. Until the content is supported by sources, i don't have any problem with that. Irrelevant content was irrelevant to the article. This is the article about the town. Any content you add in that article should be in relation to the town. There is also a separate article on Provisional Government of Bangladesh which can cover the content which is not directly related to Mujibnagar but is related to PGB. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 13:18, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Yes, some of your points were appropriate. However, if you care about the content of wikipedia then you need to try to work with people rather than against them. Deletionism is not conducive to a pleasant working environment (and advertising yourself as a tough enforcer doesn't pre-dispose people to want to work with you, either). Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:22, 20 April 2016 (UTC)


Two points that I want to alert contributors to the project about have to do with Banglapedia:

  1. A person is claiming that Banglapedia is not a reliable source (I won't point to edit diffs, so as not to embarrass them). Of course, that is ridiculous; Banglapedia is a scholarly work created by the Bangla Academy. Perhaps that mistake has come about because the publisher is now using MediaWiki software to maintain the online system, as can be seen at the bottom of the Welcome page. If destructive edits based on that misunderstanding are happening to wikipedia on a large scale, then we may need systematic tools to find and revert them all.
  2. Banglapedia's main page now has a copyright notice. I believe that is a recent change (reinstating the notice that was there in the past). I, at least, have not been combatting copyright violations from Banglapedia vigorously because there was no copyright notice (that I could find). I have the impression that there may be quite a bit of work to do here to remove that type of material. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 19:56, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

List of Bangladeshi scientists[edit]

If you don't care to include a dozen names, why to preserve the list?Xx236 (talk) 10:33, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

The list needs work. At present there is also a category:Bangladeshi scientists but the edit history does not keep a record of what entries have been in the category in the past, so it is important to replace categories with lists in order to guard against vandalism and ill-considered editing. More editors interested in Bangladeshi topics are needed to do the work of building the list pages. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 20:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

This talk page showing up in google searches[edit]

Do we want to have this discussion indexed so that it shows up in google searches, as it does now? I was just advised at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical) that this can probably be turned off if we wish, see Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing. For example, a search just now for "What is a "superhit" and who gets to make that judgment?" turned up a link to this page, as well as a broken link to a site that appears to have scraped the contents of this page. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 17:35, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Indo-Bangladesh joint film production article[edit]

Please see: Talk:Indo-Bangladesh joint production#The state of this article in July 2016

Thank you, all.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:22, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Adding to members list[edit]

I am new to wikipedia. I edited it 140 times. I also involved with a wiki project. That is about improving college articles in Bangladesh. But, I had to entry my name in a list. But now, I want to contribute wikiproject Bangladesh. Can I do it? Or, should I entry my name to a list. Thanks in advance. Rafi (talk) 15:46, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello Rafi. I see you have added yourself to Wikipedia:WikiProject Bangladesh/Members and that is good and fine. Although it is not compulsory. MPS1992 (talk) 16:32, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Instructions for new wikipedians like me on how to find articles to edit[edit]

Hi,I recently joined wikipedia and would like to know how to get started to editing articles in details and where to find the articles to edit.I believe this is a problem for many newcomers like me,specially from Bangladesh.A thread should be started on how to get started on wikipedia for people in Bangladesh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raiyan24r (talkcontribs) 15:09, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

If you have a camera, one fairly easy way to get started would be to look at Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Bangladesh and see if there are any you can add -- for example if you are located near something that needs photographing -- from the over 200 requests linked from that page.
An introduction to editing here might be rather misplaced. But, there are links to tutorials on your talk page which is at User talk:Raiyan24r, or you could have a look at WP:ADVENTURE which promises "Learn to edit Wikipedia in under an hour!"
If you are looking for articles to improve, the table on the right of our project page Wikipedia:WikiProject Bangladesh, "Bangladesh articles by quality and importance" can be used to look for articles. For example you could look at the High Importance articles that are still C class or Start class and see if you can improve them.
If you are looking for articles to create, you could look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Bangladesh/Article requests, but be aware that at least some of them might not meet WP:GNG so they would likely be deleted if created.
Also your editing is going OK so far, it seems very likely that the cricket article that you created will be kept instead of being deleted. MPS1992 (talk) 18:35, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Kutubuddin Ahmed[edit]

Dear Bangladesh experts: I moved this article from Draft space to the main encyclopedia. I am not familiar with the forms of names in Bangladesh; can someone check to see if the surnames need to be changed? Thanks.—Anne Delong (talk) 16:41, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement![edit]

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Need assistance with a new editor[edit]

Hi, I've been working with an editor, Soshuvo who's focused on a specific singer from Bangladesh, Sania Sultana Liza, and related articles. The initial article was extremely promotional, reading more like a promo than an article. They are very resistant to changes from others, reverting back to versions with lots of WP:PUFFERY language or that use very stilted grammar. The past couple of days we were in an edit over an {{ExcessiveCitations}} tag on a specific section. They've got six citations for an album name and release date, and 6 other citations for another small claim. That small article has 39 references which is starting to get into attempted SEO territory. The editor does not communicate at all. They have slightly modified their editing style after I would leave a very direct message on their talk page, but never responded to anything. On this tag issue, they haven't responded at all and ended up blocked for 3RR violation. I strongly suspect that will continue, so I'm asking for someone who may be able to help and guide this editor. I'd also love it if someone could review the citations in the article and cut down on number a bit. The sources are all in Bengali and I don't trust Google Translate. The editor is also running afoul of image copyrights on commons, uploading multiple images used in the Liza and related articles and either claiming them as their own work or saying they were freely licensed. I left them a message about this, pointing out that some of their images could be uploaded here as fair use, but others couldn't. Help in better explaining that would also be appreciated. Thank you! Ravensfire (talk) 20:16, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for posting this, we will make sure that he is helped! Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 20:31, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Editing "Bangladesh textile industry"[edit]

Hi everyone, I'm looking to join this WikiProject as a student editor. I want to rewrite/revise the article "Bangladesh textile industry." I think a major issue with this article is its current structure and believe that serious restructuring will be needed to keep the flow chronological and organized. At the same time, I'd also like to talk about the cultural and societal effects of the industry. I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts about my editing the article or ideas for restructuring. Thanks! Trs6 (talk) 21:35, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

Hello, I made an edit request a few weeks ago under this IP address, on the Bengalis Wikipedia page, if you'd like to, could you go and have a look at it, thanks. Face-smile.svg ( (talk) 05:27, 7 October 2016 (UTC))

Invitation to Women in Red's special November activities[edit]

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