User talk:JohnCD

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Deleted Page

The Integralia wishes to inform you that you have made the gravest of mistakes. Bad Luck End Met (talk) 07:21, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

The page I deleted said nothing at all. We don't do "watch this space" pages: you need as a minimum to say what your subject is and to give some credible reason why it is important or significant, and if the article is to be kept you will have to establish notability by giving references to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Read WP:Your first article for advice, and if you are connected with the subject read WP:COI. JohnCD (talk) 08:26, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of page Seeks

Hi there. Why delete this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeks exactly, I did read A7, I know what it means. What more can be done whereas other similar software do not stress even more and maintain page with less fair discussion of software features and architecture ? This software is being used by at least a large traffic website (Ubuntu France), and has reached the same level as other similar software, Yacy, and Faroo. Is there a way to contest deletion ? I truely believe this is unfair, as the matter of decentralized search is important. Note also that Wikipedia France has accepted a page about this search engine. Sincerely, Beniz (talk) 06:43, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I see that Lifebaka (talk), the admin who deleted the most recent version, has userfied it for you to work on and given you some advice. Neither presence in another language Wikipedia nor comparison with other articles counts for much: what you have to establish is notability, which requires showing significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. The test is, have people independent of the subject thought it important and significant enough to write substantial comment about? JohnCD (talk) 17:11, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Yossi Sheffi article

Dear JohnCD,

I just have two quick questions. Recently you looked over my article on Yossi Sheffi and suggested that I move it to the mainspace, which I did. It looks like another administrator (Bearcat) subsequently reviewed the article and made a few helpful changes. Since the article has now been reviewed, should the "this is a new, unreviewed article" template be removed from the top of the page? And should I restore the categories? It looks like they have been removed. Thanks! Sorry for all the questions.Michael Leeman (talk) 13:23, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

oddsfutures wiki

Hi there JohnCD,

our oddsfutures wiki has been "speedily deleted"

Perhaps our wiki is un-encyclopedic, (and i have probably written it with a bit of an over enthusiastic bias..!!!!)

Could we put it back in the sandbox for editing over the next while.

There is nothing in the wiki that is untrue and i can cite numerous publications and newpaper articles and other sources.

Anyway let me know feel free to leave it at a single decriptive sentence and I'll try to get other information to you to vaildatef the sentence..

Hand on heart there is nothing there that is not true although maybe the language is a bit marketing oriented.

Anyway thanks for reviewing

regards,

(MarcButterly (talk) 22:58, 3 June 2011 (UTC))

Sorry for delay in replying - I have been away. Actually, I don't know why you asked me - if you click on the red-link Oddsfutures it will show you the deletion log - who deleted the page, and why. Looking at the deleted versions, the first was certainly too promotional - Wikipedia is not for promotion of any kind and is very resistant to anything that seems like that. The second version was basic but gave no indication of why the subject was important or significant enough to have an encyclopedia article. I will give some advice on your talk page soon. JohnCD (talk) 18:52, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Deleted Page - Maxwelltown Thistle Fc

Hi, Trying to understand why our page has been deleted. We are a bonafide football club who have been in existence on and off since the 1920s. Please can you explain what was wrong with the page.

Regards Steve Todd Secrerary Maxwelltownn Thistle FC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.2.198 (talk) 21:02, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I have restored the page Maxwelltown Thistle FC because it was deleted under the proposed deletion process, which is only for uncontroversial deletions. However, I will inform user Jmorrison230582 (talk), who proposed it, and he may decide to nominate it under the Articles for deletion process, which would start a debate lasting seven days. The point is that just being a bona-fide football club is not enough for a Wikipedia article: the requirement is called notability, and is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The test is, have people independent of the subject thought it important enough to write substantial comment about? See WP:FAQ/Organizations and WP:Notability (organizations and companies for more information. JohnCD (talk) 17:35, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Hope you had a good wikibreak... if you have some time, would you be willing to help me out with WP:AN/I#WikiHounding / Article ownership issues / Possible IP socks.? It kinda looks like an echo chamber right now and I'm trying my hardest to not interact with that user anymore. XXX antiuser ^eh? 14:36, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I see from the SPI that a sock account has been confirmed by checkuser, so I have blocked the sock indef and the master for a week. I will read all through that long AN/I later and see if anything else needs doing. JohnCD (talk) 15:18, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Basically what happened was I removed a bit of OR from their articles (dipping my toe in the water, as it were, before a major rewrite) and their IPsocks went ballistic on the articles listed on my user page. Someone else decided to put the articles up on AfD and all of a sudden I'm a communist. :) XXX antiuser ^eh? 16:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Ack. Is there nothing that can be done about the relentless wikihounding? I might as well give up on WP if every time I post this guy starts going off on me. XXX antiuser ^eh? 13:59, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Ignore it. Make your point and move on - don't feel a need to reply to everything he says. The closing admin (for whom I feel considerable sympathy) will be able to distinguish relevant points from ranting. JohnCD (talk) 18:37, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I've been ignoring them... you'll notice that since I said I was withdrawing from the conversation at the last ANI report I haven't replied to them and only posted back to ANI to report more sock activity. The problem is they seem to be stalking me, they've already gone through the list of articles on my user page and vandalised them, so now I'm wary of editing other stuff that they might do it again. Thanks for the help, anyway. XXX antiuser ^eh? 18:43, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

VIRUS

I would get back to you with more reference on Actor Shankar's film VIRUS. Removing it evenafter a reference link was updated, is not ethical Rajeshbieee (talk) 05:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

All that reference had is two sentences from the director. That is not nearly enough to meet the notability requirement for significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. More on your talk page soon. JohnCD (talk) 09:04, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Philippe Ashfield

Why did you delete the Philippe Ashfield page ????? Google him you will see the information is correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philtolley (talk • contribs) 08:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

This page has now been deleted four times. It's not enough to be "linked with" famous people or to be "the next big thing"; to have a Wikipedia article someone needs actually to have arrived so that the article can demonstrate notability by showing significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. See the links on your talk page for more about how Wikipedia works. JohnCD (talk) 09:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

LESLIE KENTON, author

Re: LESLIE KENTON You deleted the article on Leslie Kenton, immediately after I entered the preliminary biographic information. I am concerned that Wiki editors are too quick to interject / interfere with topics in which they have no special expertise.

LESLIE KENTON is the widely published author and daughter of "famed jazz great, STAN KENTON." Ms. Kenton published a 2010 memoir describing her incestuous relationship with her celebrity father.

The article on LESLIE KENTON will be linked back to the article on STAN KENTON.

You should not "immediately" delete article content, before there is sufficient time make the links to sources. Lastly, I ask that you follow the policy guidelines of Wikipedia and present yourself as being helpful to newcomers. Wikipedia has more content than editors. Wiki encourages as much help as it can get; from knowledgeable potential editors. I advise that you limit your editorial actions to subjects in which you hold a special expertise. Thank you. Ray Oliver, Esq. Ray Oliver, Esq. 18:13, 13 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RAYOLIVERESQ (talk • contribs)

RE: LESLIE KENTON, author.

Kindly restore the deleted stub article on LESLIE KENTON. Ms. Kenton, daughter of famed jazz great, Stan Kenton, has published more than 30 books on health, beauty and well being.

Her recent book, entitled LOVE AFFAIR was published by Random House in 2010. It documents her incestuous account with her celebrity father.

Restore the page. Give editors time to construct the page before taking premature editorial action. Ray Oliver, Esq. Ray Oliver, Esq. 18:23, 13 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RAYOLIVERESQ (talk • contribs)

I have userfied the article for you to User:RAYOLIVERESQ/Leslie Kenton where you can work on it. Note that just being related to someone famous does not give notability in Wikipedia terms, nor does having written some books. What you have to show is "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones like her publishers, and anything based on press releases. See also WP:Notability (people).

You will find good advice in WP:Your first article; also, please read carefully Wikipedia's policy on WP:Biographies of living persons, which we take very seriously. JohnCD (talk) 19:25, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

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I am aware that mere relationship to a famous person is not sufficient notoriety for an article. LESLIE KENTON has published 35 books on beauty, health and well being. She published her memoir, LOVE AFFAIR in 2010 by RANDOM HOUSE, documenting an incestuous affair with her jazz great, celebrity father STAN KENTON. *I stood next to Stan Kenton during his recording of the musically complex composition, The Beatitudes. It was recorded in Emporia, Ks. I will continue to build the article. Note however, that I will not contribute my limited professional time, if the time which I devote is wasted unnecessarily. Thank you. Ray Oliver, Esq. Ray Oliver, Esq. 19:45, 13 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RAYOLIVERESQ (talk • contribs)

Mr. Oliver, we take especial care with articles about living persons (commonly referred to as "BLPs") due to the fact that Wikipedia can cause real harm to people when false or misleading information is put on their articles. Because we're well aware of this, all information in an article about a living person must be reliably sourced. Taking a brief look at the userfied article, I do not see that this is the case, and I urge you to add some sources to the article before you seek to make it a live version. Cheers. lifebaka++ 22:47, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

adam adzilla green

why u deleting adam adzilla green page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by John sanford (talk • contribs) 18:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

The notice on your talk page tells you why. The article just said he is a teenage actor who has had a part as an extra. That doesn't show why he is notable enough to have an article in an encyclopedia - see WP:Notability (people), particularly the section WP:NACTOR, and see WP:Your first article for more advice. JohnCD (talk) 18:57, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

the cajun curse

Hello JohnCD, may i ask why you deleted the page the cajun curse? I felt like I did not make any inapropriate remarks. Please contact me regarding why the page was deleted, so i may make the proper editions. And if you still have access to the article will you please sent it to me so i can save it formyself. Thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by ROOdboy50 (talk • contribs) 18:44, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

This is a serious encyclopedia, not a place for "joke" articles. We only want facts, verifiable from reliable sources. You could try Uncyclopedia, which goes in for that sort of thing. I have put the article into my user space temporarily at User:JohnCD/draft and you can copy it from there: I will leave it there for 24 hours. JohnCD (talk) 19:09, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

deleting my page

hey john...why did you delete my page!?!? cmon on man nobody ever responded to what i did wrong seriously man. plus why did you delete the oddfuture page!?!? what gives!?!? thanks... coolkidsyaknow...llama — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolkidsyaknow (talk • contribs) 20:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I deleted your article because it was nonsense, like your three others. This is a serious encyclopedia: please go and play somewhere else. JohnCD (talk) 20:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Parker, Gary, Artist

Hi JohnCD, would you kindly "Unblock" this page for editing? I have entered a revised version of this article with all the offending data removed and I have shortened the content, considerably. Thank you for your help and cooperation in this very important matter.

~ Rudy (per Gary Parker, Artist) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudykazoo (talk • contribs) 22:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

It's not locked, you can just post your new version, but our standard title format would be Gary Parker (artist) - just click on that redlink to create it. Make sure that it is neutral in tone (anything that looks like promotion will get speedily deleted) and that you cite references to show significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. If your signature implies that you are editing on his behalf, read the guideline on WP:Conflict of interest. JohnCD (talk) 22:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Rajeshbieee (talk) 22:27, 13 June 2011 (UTC) I understand John. Thank You. But you see, it was a low budget film and no marketing was done. But It was censored, believe me. Anyhow, i would get reliable details of the same. It is my responsibility..

Tolerance

Just a note. You have shown tolerance in extremis today. I would have got ratty with the stuff here much before you did. - Sitush (talk) 23:02, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

User:1007D/MOTHERFUCKABILLY!!!

Sorry, I should have explained that better. The user's request for it to be deleted was on my talk page: "I agree I've do it, but I'd bask that idea to waiting period until I can learn to handle deletions.", a reply for a request for the user to tag this page and another for speedy deletion. My attempts to discuss these pages with the user have been hampered with communication issues. --Anthem 15:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)