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== Historical innaccuracy == |
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There was not a U.S. draft going on in 1923, see [[Conscription_in_the_United_States#Interwar|Interwar draft]]. |
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This article implies there was with the sentence: "Cheerleading started out as an all-male activity, but females began participating in 1923, due to limited availability of female collegiate sports and men being drafted for war." |
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I am removing the part about the draft. |
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Can anyone provide link to the [[Cheerleading#cite_note-ACFeb2003-3|cited article]]? [[User:Roger6r|Roger6r]] ([[User talk:Roger6r|talk]]) 16:55, 25 June 2011 (UTC) |
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There is "traditional" cheerleading as in a following of it's origins. Cheerleading and pleasing the crowds at an event as entertainment during a lull. And there is competitive cheerleading which is a series of championships to find the most skilled squads and to promote the technical skills of cheerleading, which is itself the event. The two are very different. Would anyone have any objections to this? Ifc-international (talk) 05:41, 22 June 2011 (UTC) Yes.155blue (talk) 23:54, 12 March 2013 (UTC)155blue
GET INFO. ON CHEER COMPANIES LIKE C.O.A. [CHEERLEADERS OF AMERICA] OR ECA? There is no mention of Van Power, former NCA Executive who brought the first cheerleading championships to Walt Disney World's Milk House and put the first championship on TV.
There should also be a link to the UK page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheerleading_in_the_United_Kingdom There is no reference as to how Randy Neil and the International Cheerleading Foundation took cheerleading abroad.
1 World Bermuda is an international amateur sporting event held annually in Hamilton, Bermuda. Based on the summer Olympics, 1 World Bermuda is the only true multi- sports event that includes cheerleading as an official sport and officially recognizes cheerleaders as athletes. www.1worldbermuda.com
The text states, “As of 2012, all-star cheerleading as sanctioned by the USASF involves a squad of 6–36 females and/or males”. This is inaccurate and as of 2018, should be 5-38 females and/or males. The text adds summaries of various competitions. The focus on certain ones mentioned does not make sense. Yet, the most important competition for lower level teams (The Summit, created in 2013) is not mentioned at all. (https://www.varsity.com/all-star/competitions/end-of-season-events/the-summit/) Information about cheer related injuries needs to be updated. The sport has grown rapidly and the activities performed are drastically different than what they used to be. Studies from 2008 aren't really indicative of today's sport. [User: amanda363] I will start with saying that I am making suggestions based on my collective knowledge and experience from the sport in Canada. "Cheerleading in Canada" requires a full overhaul or a separate article all together. I am Canadian and have been involved in the sport since 2006, and involved in governance for the past 5 years. The information in this section is outdated. Although it has accurate information, it is no longer a proper reflection of Cheerleading in Canada. I would gladly work on this with more time to research and cite proper sources if the Wiki Community agrees that it's needed. I will include some notes below to correct some inaccuracies or for disambiguation. In the "Competition in Canada" section: Cheer Canada (https://cheercanada.ca) is the National Sport Organization for cheerleading. The body has not received its amateur athletics status nationally, but is working towards achieving this in 2021. In Canada, there are 9 Provincial Territorial Sport Organizations (PTSO) [2]: Alberta Cheerleading Association(https://albertacheerleading.ca), British Columbia Cheerleading Association(https://bccheerleading.ca), Ontario Cheer Federation (http://www.ocfcheer.com), Cheer Manitoba (https://www.cheermanitoba.ca), Cheer New Brunswick (https://www.cheernewbrunswick.com), Newfoundland and Labrador Cheerleading Athletics (https://www.facebook.com/CheerNL), Cheer Nova Scotia (https://www.cheerns.com), Fédération de cheerleading du Québec (http://www.cheerleadingquebec.com), and Saskatchewan Cheerleading Association (https://sca.ca). Cheerleading has been recognized in each of these provinces and receives government funding from their respective provincial government branch (information can be found on each of their websites). The other organizations listed are privately owned for-profit companies that host competitions across Canada (event producers), some no longer exist or have become a Varsity brand, and there are many more that aren't included. There are also way more than 40 clubs in Canada, it is difficult to have an accurate edit for this due to covid-19 member numbers are inaccurate and there is no place where this stat is posted nationally due to the governance structure. In the "Canadians on the Worlds Stage" section: club teams compete at the IASF World Championships. In 2013, due to the ICU bylaws, Canada was no longer eligible to compete in the Elite division (I would need to dig for an article, but it's common knowledge in the community) so Canada was only allowed to field teams in the Premier Division. There is a rule (ICU) that teams that demonstrate a certain level of success in the Elite division must move into Premier. Team Canada Cheerleading also has Cheer Abilities (Para Cheer), Performance Cheer teams and Junior Team Canada teams, these teams are chosen through video submission as a team (verses as individual athletes). [3] [4] [5]. The International Cheer Union has received full recognition from the International Olympic Committee as the International Federation for cheerleading at the 138th IOC Session in Tokyo (https://cheerunion.org.ismmedia.com/ISM3/std-content/repos/Top/olympics/docs/ICU_IOC_Full-Recognition.pdf). For disambiguation, we should consider the article should remove misleading information about specific for-profit companies and divisions mentioned so that readers can be directed to their governing bodies to find out which events they could/should attend. The section for "Competition and Companies" is extremely biased towards Varsity and their respective brands and events. I think that reference to Varsity and its brands should be removed. I don't think that this section adds value to defining Cheerleading, and in my opinion it merely serves as marketing for those companies. I also think that the Universal Cheerleading Association (a Varsity Brand) in the "Associations, federations, and organizations" section should be removed. This is section should be reserved for information for official bodies that govern the sport, not for-profit companies and divisions of the same company. [User: Wikipang94] Priority 3
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Inconsistency on sport issue
The beginning of the article is confusing because at first it says that cheerleading is a physical activity, and is sometimes considered a sport, the introduction later says "The growing presentation of the sport to a global audience" this clearly contradictory statement undermines the article. This not meant to open the discussion on whether cheerleading is a sport but the article needs to have internal consistency —Preceding unsigned comment added by Awgames (talk • contribs) 23:45, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- Clarified. Fat&Happy (talk) 16:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Just a suggestion to add into the sport section, how about the definition of sport. sport /[spawrt, spohrt]/ noun.- an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sport. I feel by adding this, it can really open up a discussion that would raise up more question of other actvities that maybe considered a sport or may not be that should be. Jn09 (talk) 08:10, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
- The purpose of Wikipedia is not to "really open up a discussion", but it is somewhat surprising that there was no internal link to the sport article. Fixed. Fat&Happy (talk) 16:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
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I think it would be reasonable for Cheerleading to have it's own wikiproject instead of being part of wikiproject gymnastics.. any opposed? --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 23:49, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
I have to agree with you, since many do say they are two completely different activites. Each also requiring different skills..it would make sense for each to have their own wikiproject. Jn09 (talk) 16:59, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Jn09, 21 March 2011
{{edit semi-protected}} There is on going stereotype that cheerleading is a feminine sport, which would mean either all girl team or gives the aspect that any male cheerleaders would be of gay sexual orientation. That is not likely the case, just for being a male cheerleader does not mean a male is not straight. Male cheerleaders actually bring a lot of skill onto the teams, and push the team to higher skill levels. "Male cheerleaders are more than just a group of guys shouting cheers on the sidelines. Guy cheerleaders are actually what help cheerleading squads have more skillful stunts, higher baskets, and top notch pyramids" http://www.cheerleading.org/ Jn09 (talk) 17:30, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Jn09 (talk) 17:30, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Not done There's really not a specific edit request in your comment. Possibly indicate exactly what you propose adding, and where? (If your intent was to add the quote included, it seems pretty random and would most likely require some additional context if included anywhere.) Fat&Happy (talk) 18:20, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
edit request
It says "growing in rapid numbers". Need I say more?
Please edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.167.54.37 (talk) 22:52, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Historical innaccuracy
There was not a U.S. draft going on in 1923, see Interwar draft.
This article implies there was with the sentence: "Cheerleading started out as an all-male activity, but females began participating in 1923, due to limited availability of female collegiate sports and men being drafted for war."
I am removing the part about the draft.
Can anyone provide link to the cited article? Roger6r (talk) 16:55, 25 June 2011 (UTC)