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::Obviously I disagree with you on the importance of a personal scandal under these circumstances. Check out BLP guidelines 3.2--allegations, even if negative, should be included if reported by reputable sources and are relevant to the public life--which, in this case, they are. There is actually no dispute of the allegations and Jordan's response to the allegations, which is the part I wanted to include because the statement goes beyond his dispute with his wife. Right now, this is a very short article with a lot of unnecessary trivia (member of a Masonic Lodge? How is this important to a BLP?). It is also very poorly written, in some parts mangling grammar. The part on "Fiscal Policy" actually has nothing even remotely related to "fiscal" policy. First graf reports Jordan's position on ''tax'' policy, the second is an environmental issue. Certainly this part is in dire need of revision. I've been writing/editing for a living for some time, so this kind of errors really jump out. How others on Wiki perceive this is an entirely different question. [[User:Alex.deWitte|Alex.deWitte]] ([[User talk:Alex.deWitte|talk]]) 07:10, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
::Obviously I disagree with you on the importance of a personal scandal under these circumstances. Check out BLP guidelines 3.2--allegations, even if negative, should be included if reported by reputable sources and are relevant to the public life--which, in this case, they are. There is actually no dispute of the allegations and Jordan's response to the allegations, which is the part I wanted to include because the statement goes beyond his dispute with his wife. Right now, this is a very short article with a lot of unnecessary trivia (member of a Masonic Lodge? How is this important to a BLP?). It is also very poorly written, in some parts mangling grammar. The part on "Fiscal Policy" actually has nothing even remotely related to "fiscal" policy. First graf reports Jordan's position on ''tax'' policy, the second is an environmental issue. Certainly this part is in dire need of revision. I've been writing/editing for a living for some time, so this kind of errors really jump out. How others on Wiki perceive this is an entirely different question. [[User:Alex.deWitte|Alex.deWitte]] ([[User talk:Alex.deWitte|talk]]) 07:10, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

== Edit request from 50.17.37.187, 4 October 2011 ==

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Refering to: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/JournalText129/SJ-09-27-11.pdf

First off, this article is no longer full protected, so the template should be removed. Also, the Ohio Senate page should be updated as follows to demonstrate committee changes:
==Ohio Senate==
In late 2009, Jordan announced that he would seek the Ohio Senate seat held by [[Bill Harris (Ohio politician)|Bill Harris]] in 2010. The election race put Jordan against former Representative [[Thom Collier]] and Knox County GOP Party Chairman Lou Petros.<ref>[http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/dublin/stories/2010/04/14/0415du19th-oh-senate_ln.html Three republicans vie for place in November election]</ref> Jordan won the GOP nomination with 53.9% of the vote.<ref>[http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/delaware/stories/2010/05/08/brenner-and-jordan-win-nominations.html Brenner and Jordan win nominations]</ref> He won the general election with 69.08% of the vote against Democrat Neil Patel.

Jordan was sworn into his first term on January 3, 2011. Subsequently, Senate President [[Tom Niehaus]] appointed him to the Joint Committee on Agency Rule Review, and the standing committees on Health, Human Services and Aging; Insurance, Commerce and Labor; and State and Local Government and Veteran's Affairs (as Chairman).

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[[Special:Contributions/50.17.37.187|50.17.37.187]] ([[User talk:50.17.37.187|talk]]) 15:37, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

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Sock-puppetry

I am a bit confused concerting the sock-puppetry rules. It seems most of the changes that are purported to have been made by a single user were not made from different accounts but rather from different IP addresses without signing in. And the changes were fairly minor and complete with references. Sock-puppetry normally involves repeated identical changes which had been reverted by either someone from multiple accounts or by masquing identity. I suppose, using anonymous editing is a masquing technique, but the problem is that the changes are so insubstantial (and, apparently, accurate) that the people who should be sanctioned are those who revert the changes, not those who post them. Worse, locking the page is preventing some very serious updates, as Mr. Jordan has been in the news lately and the details are very much relevant to his biography. I would prefer to defer to someone with administrative experience to deal with this, but the changes should be allowed quite soon.Alex.deWitte (talk) 05:08, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I also want to add that the article, as currently written, is either illiterate or of questionable veracity. For example, one passage refers to "our small businesses"--not sure who "we" are supposed to be, particularly in encyclopedic context Alex.deWitte (talk) 05:21, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the "our" to correct this. The article is now only WP:Semi protected - users that are Wikipedia:User access levels#Autoconfirmed users can edit here. If you are desirous to add reports of domestic disputes without any legal charges never mind even a conviction for anything, you will be struggling to demonstrate its notable value in a life story. Please present something here for discussion if this is what you are desirous of adding to this WP:BLP - thanks - Off2riorob (talk) 18:29, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously I disagree with you on the importance of a personal scandal under these circumstances. Check out BLP guidelines 3.2--allegations, even if negative, should be included if reported by reputable sources and are relevant to the public life--which, in this case, they are. There is actually no dispute of the allegations and Jordan's response to the allegations, which is the part I wanted to include because the statement goes beyond his dispute with his wife. Right now, this is a very short article with a lot of unnecessary trivia (member of a Masonic Lodge? How is this important to a BLP?). It is also very poorly written, in some parts mangling grammar. The part on "Fiscal Policy" actually has nothing even remotely related to "fiscal" policy. First graf reports Jordan's position on tax policy, the second is an environmental issue. Certainly this part is in dire need of revision. I've been writing/editing for a living for some time, so this kind of errors really jump out. How others on Wiki perceive this is an entirely different question. Alex.deWitte (talk) 07:10, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 50.17.37.187, 4 October 2011

Refering to: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/JournalText129/SJ-09-27-11.pdf

First off, this article is no longer full protected, so the template should be removed. Also, the Ohio Senate page should be updated as follows to demonstrate committee changes:

Ohio Senate

In late 2009, Jordan announced that he would seek the Ohio Senate seat held by Bill Harris in 2010. The election race put Jordan against former Representative Thom Collier and Knox County GOP Party Chairman Lou Petros.[1] Jordan won the GOP nomination with 53.9% of the vote.[2] He won the general election with 69.08% of the vote against Democrat Neil Patel.

Jordan was sworn into his first term on January 3, 2011. Subsequently, Senate President Tom Niehaus appointed him to the Joint Committee on Agency Rule Review, and the standing committees on Health, Human Services and Aging; Insurance, Commerce and Labor; and State and Local Government and Veteran's Affairs (as Chairman).

50.17.37.187 (talk) 15:37, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]