User talk:Normal nick

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WP:3RR

Familarize yourself with the Wikipedia three revert rule. I report those that exceed it.--MONGO 04:32, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi

What do you need help with?--Striver 22:21, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what to do to bring neutrality back to the page in question? What is the right procedure I should take to solve my dispute? Is it actually possible to be solved? Don't rational arguments have any kind of power at this space? Isn't there any hierarquical superior guy who has more power than those assholes? Does what I did (the argumentation) serve any purpose?

Bro, i have the same problem. I dont know what you should do, i myself try to keep my cool and keep being persistant. If i keep being persistant and cool, i wont burn myself out, and then i can be a support for future people. Try the same, dont get uppset, be cool, hang around for a couple of years, and then we will be two guys keeping stating that they are wrong. After a while, some third and fourth guy will come. Avoid editing the page untill we have majority, editing will only get reverted and get you angry, so there is not much point, keep your efforts to the talk page as long as we are so few that we can get bullied. --Striver 12:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Sept 11 Dispute

Hello Normal. I think you are proceeding in a reasonable manner in the dispute. Probably the best thing you can do is stay rational and probably the worst thing a guy could do is get belligerent. Disputes such as this can turn fairly hostile and then they aren't much fun for anybody. The thing is, you can only do so much when faced with strong opposition, especially when administrators are involved. And just like in the real world, being reasonable doesn't always work. This is a very hot topic and some of the people are very passionate about it. I agree with you that the article is not neutral. If you keep doing what you are doing, you might help move it in that direction. SkeenaR 23:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

It's mostly a chaos in these kinds of articles that cover a heavy political subject, an event where many people died, nobody has really proven anything, and there are allegations of all types of conspiracy from ones that may seem plausible to others that are pretty nuts. I think putting in a request for comment [1] is the best thing you can do right now to get others involved. I know it seems unfair that the people you are in conflict with are administrators and if there is a way to get more admins to look at it, I'm not sure. Ask User:Tom_harrison. He's probably one of the editors and administrators that you are in dispute with, but I'm sure he would help you with any information he might have about getting other admins to look. He's helped me out before while we were in disagreement in other areas. Other than that, probably just be careful about making personal attacks, there is a rule against it. You also might be interested in looking over most of this page. I think the rules are clearly being violated there and it's a good case study of a dispute that lead nowhere. Also,what is the goal you were talking about on Strivers page? Adios amigo. (this would probably be a good place to start)[2] SkeenaR 00:42, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

afd

Hi, i would like yo inform you of this afd: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/People questioning the official American 9/11 account--Striver 16:18, 5 April 2006 (UTC)