Talk:Mickey's Christmas Carol

The identity of the collectors

There has been a lot of editing back and forth regarding the identity of the collectors. Right now, one section of the article identifies them as Basil and Dawson from The Great Mouse Detective, while another identifies them as "Ratty and Mole", without giving any further information. (Though earlier revisions indicate that they're from The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad.) Could someone who has seen all three movies please clarify the situation? (I've only seen The Great Mouse Detective and Mickey's Christmas Carol myself, so I'm reluctant to change it.)

Regardless, the idea that the characters are from The Great Mouse Detective seems unlikely to me, since Mickey's Christmas Carol predates it by three years or so. Even considering that these things usually take years to complete, there's also the fact that they don't look like Basil and Dawson. 62.181.255.64 (talk) 09:15, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

They're very clearly Ratty and Mole from Mr. Toad, but I suppose that's original research. 75.49.251.170 (talk) 07:13, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Disney Classic/Modern eras

Since Walt Disney's death in 1966, there's been a bit of a blur as to whether the studio's animation output between 1970 and 1981 are part of the classic era or the modern era. It could be argued that The Aristocats, Bedknobs and Broomsticks, Robin Hood, Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, The Rescuers, Pete's Dragon, The Small One, and The Fox and the Hound are owned by the classic era, because the animating craft was specifically being carried by the remaining Nine Old Men, while they passed it on to the new school animators. Either Mickey's Christmas Carol or The Black Cauldron were probably the first of the modern animation output, though they were in development long before the remaining Old Men departed the studio. And even long after the management shake-up of the 1980's by Michael Eisner, some of the old-timers stayed on the job until the very end. Eric Larson left a short time before The Great Mouse Detective was released. Joe Grant returned to Disney in 1989 and died in 2005. John Hench completed the short Destino a while before his death in 2004. But the other arguement, for ultra-Disney purists is that the legitimate Disney animation output is a product that was made under Walt's watch, which would include anything up to either The Jungle Book, Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day, or It's Tough to be a Bird. What are your views? The reason I'm asking is because Winnie the Pooh and a Day for Eeyore, The Disney Channel, Tokyo Disneyland, The New Fantasyland at Disneyland, Walt Disney Pictures (although the Walt Disney Pictures logo wasn't used until 1985), and Mickey's Christmas Carol came out in 1983, a year before Michael Eisner became in charge of Walt Disney Productions (later renamed The Walt Disney Company in 1986). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.40.115 (talk) 01:02, 9 February 2012 (UTC)