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<s>We're off to a great start, but there's a lot of work to do. On one of the talk pages, there's a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_self-publishing_companies#Long_list_of_self-publishing_companies long list of 56 self-publishing companies] that need to be intergrated into these articles. Please feel free to give us a hand. Thanks!</s> [[User:A Quest For Knowledge|A Quest For Knowledge]] ([[User talk:A Quest For Knowledge|talk]]) 17:37, 25 April 2012 (UTC) |
<s>We're off to a great start, but there's a lot of work to do. On one of the talk pages, there's a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_self-publishing_companies#Long_list_of_self-publishing_companies long list of 56 self-publishing companies] that need to be intergrated into these articles. Please feel free to give us a hand. Thanks!</s> [[User:A Quest For Knowledge|A Quest For Knowledge]] ([[User talk:A Quest For Knowledge|talk]]) 17:37, 25 April 2012 (UTC) |
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:This is now done. Please add [[WP:List of self-publishing companies]] to your watchlist and if you encounter any self-publishing companies not on the list, please add them. Thanks. [[User:A Quest For Knowledge|A Quest For Knowledge]] ([[User talk:A Quest For Knowledge|talk]]) 14:14, 27 April 2012 (UTC) |
:This is now done. Please add [[WP:List of self-publishing companies]] to your watchlist and if you encounter any self-publishing companies not on the list, please add them. Thanks. [[User:A Quest For Knowledge|A Quest For Knowledge]] ([[User talk:A Quest For Knowledge|talk]]) 14:14, 27 April 2012 (UTC) |
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== WP:FRINGE and superminority theories such as Flat Earth == |
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I've participated in discussions where it is believed that (roughly) "only superminority concepts such as Flat Earth theory qualify as WP:FRINGE". I've rejected this notion noting that there are a wide variety of ideas which are fringe, even without reaching the point of near-universal derision as Flat Earth theory. |
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Any other editors care to comment on whether theories must be at the absurdity level of Flat Earth to be considered [[WP:FRINGE]]? 18:42, 29 April 2012 (UTC) |
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Booth Escaped
(discussion moved to Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Booth_Escaped
lets do a diagram
Systematized as scientific definition | |||||||
uses scientific method | |||||||
tries to explain it self in scientific terms | |||||||
departs from mainstream or orthodox theories | |||||||
discredited | |||||||
creative or wishful data interpretation | |||||||
may avoid scientific explanation | |||||||
focused on raising a following | |||||||
Superseded scientific theories | Fraud | Superstitions | Pseudoscience | Pathological science
Dead science |
Fringe science | Protoscience
Cutting edge |
Science |
Please edit it to your likings and post it below. Thanks. 84.106.26.81 (talk) 17:04, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
- No. Let's not. Because it is (a) original research, and (b) wrong. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:11, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've seen this chart before...but where? ArtifexMayhem (talk) 20:51, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
- I think the original idea is at Fringe_science#Definition? Aarghdvaark (talk) 03:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- @andy What is wrong? You don't like some of the terms used? Remove them? We need better guidelines that are more detailed. It is better to prevent unwanted content than to have to delete it. 84.107.147.16 (talk) 11:22, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've seen this chart before...but where? ArtifexMayhem (talk) 20:51, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
- I like the idea of the diagram, but the implementation is kinda ugly. BTW, policy pages don't follow WP:NOR, our policy pages are essentially OR by the community to find out want rules make a project like Wikipedia work. LK (talk) 06:01, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Independent Sources - Clarify
The article should clarify what exactly it means by an independent source in no uncertain terms. Currently the wording may let some argue, for example, that a patent office filing published by a patent office is independent. I.e it should be clear why the patent office may be independent but the patent filing isn't. How independent is independent: does a source have to be completely unconnected, or would an independent observer involved in a demonstration, of say dowsing, be considered independent. IRWolfie- (talk) 23:43, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Fringe theories noticeboard RfC: Should there be advice to notify an article if discussion is extended or invites action?
There is currently a debate at Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard#RfC: Should there be advice to notify an article if discussion is extended or invites action? on whether the advice at the top should include as well some statement like "If a discussion on an article is extends over a day or invites action, please place a notice on the article's talk page, or an associated project page for multiple articles. This is not mandatory". Dmcq (talk) 11:41, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Self-publishing companies
The misuse of self-published books is often a problem in articles about or related to fringe theories. After several discussions at the Reliable sources noticeboard involving self-published sources, we've started creating a list of self-publishing companies. The hope is that with such a list, it will be easier to identify when a book is self-published or if it's produced by a respected publishing house. Therefore, we've created two lists:
- List of self-publishing companies in article space for notable self-publishing houses
- WP:List of self-publishing companies in Wikipedia space for notable and non-notable self-publishing houses
We're off to a great start, but there's a lot of work to do. On one of the talk pages, there's a long list of 56 self-publishing companies that need to be intergrated into these articles. Please feel free to give us a hand. Thanks! A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 17:37, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
- This is now done. Please add WP:List of self-publishing companies to your watchlist and if you encounter any self-publishing companies not on the list, please add them. Thanks. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 14:14, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
WP:FRINGE and superminority theories such as Flat Earth
I've participated in discussions where it is believed that (roughly) "only superminority concepts such as Flat Earth theory qualify as WP:FRINGE". I've rejected this notion noting that there are a wide variety of ideas which are fringe, even without reaching the point of near-universal derision as Flat Earth theory. Any other editors care to comment on whether theories must be at the absurdity level of Flat Earth to be considered WP:FRINGE? 18:42, 29 April 2012 (UTC)