Talk:Universal health care

Constitutional Health Care Guarantee

Most countries have constitutional guarantees for universal health care. I think we need to add another color to the map indicating these countries.

Clarification Iraq and Afghan Health Care Status

The map rather confusingly lists Iraq and Afghanistan as having their "health care coverage provided by the United States war funding." I know of some commitments by the US military to provide medical attention to civilians injured as a by-product of American military action, but no universal health care. Could someone clarify? --Indolering (talk) 19:20, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

The map was redone, and these notations re: Iraq and Afghanistan removed. --KarlB (talk) 15:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Proposed text on Mexico

I've deleted the following text from the "Americas" section:

????? Mexico has Universal Health care for the children who were born since January 5th, 2007...please do not delete this information, just edit it. read the info here http://www.esmas.com/noticierostelevisa/mexico/593939.html

The tone is non-encyclopedic, and since the source isn't in English, it's impossible for a non-Spanish speaker to verify. If this information is correct (and I have no reason to believe that it is not), we need someone who can verify it and (ideally) find an English-language source, and then we need to rework the text to make it more encyclopedic. Depending on how much information is available, it may be appropriate to create a new subsection for Mexico. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EastTN (talk • contribs) 17:04, August 8, 2008

Mexico's Universal Health Care

http://www.presidencia.gob.mx/en/press/?contenido=40872

Accompanied by state governor Leonel Godoy Rangel and Health Secretary José Ángel Córdova Villalobos, President Calderón declared that regardless of the country's accumulated lag in health and the number of years that have elapsed without dealing with the problem, this Administration is determined to deal with it.

Proof of this, he declared, is that in 2009, Federal Government will assign $133 billion pesos to this sector, in other words, 20% more than in 2008. He added that over the past two years, the amount of resources assigned to the Health Secretary have doubled, while the amount allocated for Popular Insurance has risen from $16 to $48 billion pesos.

“I am convinced that Mexico will only be a more equitable, fairer country when every Mexican has guaranteed, quality medical care," he stated.

The President announced that the Hospital he opened in this municipality involved over $50 million pesos in investment from his administration and will benefit the northeast and east region of Michoacán.

He added that this General Hospital, which he suggested should be called the Bicentennial Hospital, will have six specialties: Pediatrics, gyneco-obstetrics, internal medicine, surgery, anesthesiology and dentistry, in addition to traumatology, since it is located in the middle of the Mexico-Guadalajara highway.

“If we go on like this, to celebrate the Bicentennial, by 2011, Mexico will be one of the few countries in the world to have achieved universal health coverage," he explained.

Mexico is going to accomplish public universal health care by 2011: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.104.87 (talk • contribs) 21:56, December 17, 2008

Please be neutral about US Healthcare reform

I removed some statements from United States block because it was not neutral and did not cite the sources using reference links to original documents (rather general like "Under PPAC it is estimated..." Estimated by whom?). Statements like ones listed below are highly controversial and not neutral:

"it is hard to include the US on a list of countries having universal health care based on the PPAC" "this system encourages use of the emergency facilities for primary care and not just for emergency purposes" "PPAC answered none of these questions" "since the head of the CBO inappropriately visited the White House to be lobbied by the President in July 2009, many Americans have little faith in the CBO estimates"

Also someones personal blog is not a reliable source of information, unless person is an expert in the field. In this case put note this in the text like "According to XXX,..."

Dear editors, please remember, this is not a newspaper article, but an encyclopedia article. Please put back information that you think is needed, but do not violate wiki rules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Innab (talk • contribs) 23:27, 30 March 2010

Proposed revision (March 2012)

Hi, would like to propose a major revision to this article, towards the following new outline:

• History: Use existing language. Potentially add new text.
• Terminology: One paragraph
  • This paragraph will address the terminology issues e.g. universal health coverage, universal care, universal health care coverage as well as provide a clear definition of universal health coverage and key terms sources from the WHO report.
• Goals: One paragraph
  • This section will outline the intended outcomes of UHC e.g. improved access to health care, financial protection, and improved health outcomes. Use WHO report to develop language.
• Funding Models: Outline the various funding models for UHC
• Countries pursuing UHC: Add a short paragraph to introduce the section, then link out to the separate page with UHC snippets on a per-country basis.

The biggest change will be to remove the country-specific descriptions of UHC to a separate page (for example, Universal health coverage by country or Health financing by country, which would mirror the Health systems by country article but focus on short paras for each country that detail the financing arrangements in that country, and then link out to the main health system#financing link for each country. I suggest this because for now the country-specific descriptions take up the bulk of the article, and the broader definitional and generic issues around UHC are not covered well. Please share your thoughts on the above proposal.--Karl.brown (talk) 20:37, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Note - this was partially done; country-specifics were moved to Universal health coverage by country. --KarlB (talk) 15:10, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Should U. S. be classified as a "Nation attempting to obtain universal health care"?

If yes, File:Universal health care.svg should be updated accordingly. Dodoïste (talk) 08:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Since one of the stated goals of the ACA is to give everybody access to affordable healthcare, I think the US should fall under the category of "attempting." — Preceding Wikipedia:Signatures comment added by 98.220.38.52 (talk) 13:16, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. I've updated the file accordingly.

Now the file was removed for discussion, as it is not based on factual sources. That's another issue. I hope it will be solved, as I find this map useful. Dodoïste (talk) 09:55, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks; there is a discussion going on here File_talk:Universal_health_care.svg about how this graph is made. The problem is, many countries are attempting to improve their health coverage, but there isn't a clear metric on when a country has achieved universal health coverage. So yes, the US is attempting to improve, but so is Canada and England. Please join the discussion - what is most needed are 3rd party sources which make some sort of differentiation between levels of UHC. --KarlB (talk) 12:17, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

graph has been revised; further discussion re: graph should ideally be here File_talk:Universal_health_care.svg; in any case, the US is now listed as a country which has legislation in place for UHC.--KarlB (talk) 15:58, 18 July 2012 (UTC)