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:::Regardless, this article lacks notability I think. The dubious nature of the article, plus the fact that this book is the only place he seems to be mentioned (I looked on google, yahoo, book search, etc and found nada as well) makes it deletion fodder I think. in any case, the lack of any sort of placing of him anywhere on the web suggests he's barely a footnote and certainly not notable enough for his own article regardless of whether it's fake or not. One reference in an obscure book is not enough to establish notability. I'm going to prod it. --[[User:Lendorien|Lendorien]] 15:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC) |
:::Regardless, this article lacks notability I think. The dubious nature of the article, plus the fact that this book is the only place he seems to be mentioned (I looked on google, yahoo, book search, etc and found nada as well) makes it deletion fodder I think. in any case, the lack of any sort of placing of him anywhere on the web suggests he's barely a footnote and certainly not notable enough for his own article regardless of whether it's fake or not. One reference in an obscure book is not enough to establish notability. I'm going to prod it. --[[User:Lendorien|Lendorien]] 15:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Take a look at Google books: [http://books.google.com/books?q=%22giovanni+di+giovanni%22+gay&hl=en&safe=off&um=1&sa=N&tab=wp] - there are at least three books there that refer to GdG, which satisfies [[WP:N]]. -- <span style="background-color: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> ([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</span></span> 07:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Wonder how I missed that. Hmmm. well, I'm satisfied then. --[[User:Lendorien|Lendorien]] 17:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::The Google-book and the other reference mention Giovanni di Giovanni clearly. Unfortunately '''both books miss to refer to the original text'''. If anyone has an idea where the original relates to, please post it in the article! |
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:::There are a few '''information missing''' about this specific case, for example it is stated in one source (see URL in the statement of ''satyr'') Giovanni di Giovanni was burned between his thighs, what would mean it was not his anus which was burned as penalty, but it would have been the wound of castration which was burned to close it. (If not burned or closed in other way, people bleed to death within short time.) |
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Why was the article shortened??? Compare this (to my opinion better) version: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Giovanni_di_Giovanni&diff=next&oldid=271823474]] The quoted passage is confirmed in the book "Forbidden Friendships: Homosexuality and Male Culture in Renaissance Florence", page 19 + 20 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/62.225.135.91|62.225.135.91]] ([[User talk:62.225.135.91|talk]]) 15:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I expanded, refreshed, and referenced the article further than it was. [[Special:Contributions/178.223.223.170|178.223.223.170]] ([[User talk:178.223.223.170|talk]]) 22:44, 10 August 2012 (UTC) |
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Bogus article?
I believe this article is false. There are no info on google, no wikilinks in it.wiki, de.wiki and fr.wiki. --Square87 09:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, this person doesn't exist anywhere else on the web, if he was a sugnificant victim of discrimination against homosexuals he would probably appear elsewhere. His name is suspicious and the translation of the Italian regarding his punishment sounds like it wasn't translated at all but made up by someone who thought they knew how people spoke during that period by mimicking 18th century English. --Seth J. Frantzman 07:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- I assume you have checked the referenced book out of the library and found the information to be missing from it as well? Haiduc 10:02, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Regardless, this article lacks notability I think. The dubious nature of the article, plus the fact that this book is the only place he seems to be mentioned (I looked on google, yahoo, book search, etc and found nada as well) makes it deletion fodder I think. in any case, the lack of any sort of placing of him anywhere on the web suggests he's barely a footnote and certainly not notable enough for his own article regardless of whether it's fake or not. One reference in an obscure book is not enough to establish notability. I'm going to prod it. --Lendorien 15:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Take a look at Google books: [1] - there are at least three books there that refer to GdG, which satisfies WP:N. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 07:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- Wonder how I missed that. Hmmm. well, I'm satisfied then. --Lendorien 17:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
- The Google-book and the other reference mention Giovanni di Giovanni clearly. Unfortunately both books miss to refer to the original text. If anyone has an idea where the original relates to, please post it in the article!
- There are a few information missing about this specific case, for example it is stated in one source (see URL in the statement of satyr) Giovanni di Giovanni was burned between his thighs, what would mean it was not his anus which was burned as penalty, but it would have been the wound of castration which was burned to close it. (If not burned or closed in other way, people bleed to death within short time.)
Article shortening?
Why was the article shortened??? Compare this (to my opinion better) version: [[2]] The quoted passage is confirmed in the book "Forbidden Friendships: Homosexuality and Male Culture in Renaissance Florence", page 19 + 20 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.225.135.91 (talk) 15:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- I expanded, refreshed, and referenced the article further than it was. 178.223.223.170 (talk) 22:44, 10 August 2012 (UTC)