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Are you sure that "kwan-li-so" stands for education? It seems to me that it is quite similar (and therefore maybe a Korean loanword) to the Chinese guanlisuo 管理所, which means "administrative office". Nils

Frankly this article is a mess.

I have inserted more than a few requests for citations. I'll give it a couple of weeks and then all unreferenced text will be removed. Parrot of Doom (talk) 20:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why did the information need to be removed? Many of the claims were contained in the first refrence (guardian article). Remaining allegations are supported by a documentary by Discovery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_the_Secret_State It seems most of these weren't uncited but rather lacked in text citations. Is there any objection to reverting to the version before you deleted all that information and fixing the few unsupported qualifiers ('all' in the article vs 'all we could find' in the source)? It seems the deletion was unneeded, is there any wikipedia policy that information should be removed for lack of intext citation when the few refrences provided succinctly support an article of a few paragraphs?--24.29.234.88 (talk) 11:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My view is that of wp:verifiability. The article as I first encountered it read little better than the ramblings of a ten year old child. The 'citation needed' requests were left on the page for several weeks, more than enough time for any interested parties to amend the lack of references.

All is still available in the history section, so feel free to reinsert anything you like - so long as it conforms to wp:verifiability, and with wp:reliable sources (not blogs, or other wikipedia articles, which are unreliable sources). I feel quite strongly about this, it is to the detriment of Wikipedia that so many articles are either unreferenced, or referenced from unreliable sources. Parrot of Doom (talk) 22:38, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More information

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31880905/ns/world_news-asiapacific has more information about this camp. -JasonQ87

oops, I meant http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/feb/01/northkorea

-JasonQ87

Coordinates given are off

The coordinates given in the article are wrong and lead to some installation on mainland China, not North Korea.