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I write on 31 August and it is turning West, not East. Regardless - doesn't anyone think a forecast is a bit presumtive on Wikipedia? I know NOAA is a reputable source, but they can't even predict the weather three days from now. Is Wikipedia now open to all prognosticators? --[[Special:Contributions/96.244.244.244|96.244.244.244]] ([[User talk:96.244.244.244|talk]]) 22:48, 31 August 2012 (UTC) |
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== Where did the fatalities occur? == |
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I see wind speed is measured in knots in the US, which is the norm in many countries, but M/s (meters per second) is a more usual description given to measure wind speed in Europe, rather than km/h. I suggest changing to M/S. Jørgen88 (talk) 06:51, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- The standard for the tropical cyclone project is to use mph (km/h) for US-based storms and km/h (mph) for all other storms. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 11:56, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Europe doesnt have too many hurricanes, anyway. And the rest of the world, including India, Australia, Japan, Philippines, China, and a lot of other eastern countries that have cyclones use km/h for measure speed whatsoever. So for US storms it is mph (km/h) and for the rest of the world it is km/h (mph). --Anirudh Emani (talk) 13:43, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well, we do have European windstorm though, the strongest one measured in my area was in 1992, coming from over the North Sea, with winds measuring 145 knots (75 m/s). I dont know if thats a storm or if its a hurricane, but it sure made a mess. In Scandinavia we use M/S though. example for weather forecast Jørgen88 (talk) 18:50, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Weather forecasting is pretty cool in Europe. That, i have to agree. But the storms you have are extratropical cyclones. They aren't tropical cyclones and hence can't be called Hurricanes, even though they form in the Atlantic. The Tropical Cyclones WikiProject doesn't cover extratropical cyclones and i believe there is another project on such topics with partially/totally different set of rules. --Anirudh Emani (talk) 14:11, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- There is another project, and for more about that project, see here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Non-tropical storms. Inks.LWC (talk) 05:05, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- Weather forecasting is pretty cool in Europe. That, i have to agree. But the storms you have are extratropical cyclones. They aren't tropical cyclones and hence can't be called Hurricanes, even though they form in the Atlantic. The Tropical Cyclones WikiProject doesn't cover extratropical cyclones and i believe there is another project on such topics with partially/totally different set of rules. --Anirudh Emani (talk) 14:11, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well, we do have European windstorm though, the strongest one measured in my area was in 1992, coming from over the North Sea, with winds measuring 145 knots (75 m/s). I dont know if thats a storm or if its a hurricane, but it sure made a mess. In Scandinavia we use M/S though. example for weather forecast Jørgen88 (talk) 18:50, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Meteorological history – Storm path
Do you think the the storm path image in the Meteorological history section needs updating? How often is it supposed to be updated? –– 76.10.241.86 (talk) 17:52, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- For active storms with articles, myself or Keith Edkins will update the tracks once a day. I'll have the newer version up shortly. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:29, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! –– 76.10.241.86 (talk) 19:35, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think storm path is (again) in need of updating. Nikkywikky321 (talk) 02:56, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Bulleted list..?
I noticed, the impact subsections of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama feature a bulleted list. Shouldn't it be in paragraphs..? and its written in active voice..! This is so messed up. --Anirudh Emani (talk) 12:20, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- I removed the bullet points, but someone keeps adding them back in. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:42, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Possible Earthen Dam Failure
I included more information about the potential dam failure of an earthen dam on the Tangipahoa River that holds back Lake Tangipahoa. It wasn't a levee that breached. The dam suffered major damage due to heavy rains and may fail. Bdj95 (talk) 18:42, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Damage figure
I found this rescent news article on Isaac stating it did about 1.5 billion in damage. Could this be included for now? --Rye998 (talk) 19:17, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- It says it "could" reach $1.5 billion, according to a disaster model. I think we should wait untli we get some better figures. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:31, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Good point. I think that's too low anyways. It'll take a bit longer to get the full damage figures out. --Rye998 (talk) 20:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yea. I think it's worth mentioning, but not as the official damage figure. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:38, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- If I'm not mistaken, isn't the damage figure used usually the insured damage times 2? I have seen that from the NHC in the past. --Lionheart Omega (talk) 18:14, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- They do that for hurricanes and with winds, but Isaac caused mostly flooding, so the ratio is going to be off. If I recall correctly, most hurricane insurance doesn't cover storm surge, of flooding, one or the other. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:12, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- If I'm not mistaken, isn't the damage figure used usually the insured damage times 2? I have seen that from the NHC in the past. --Lionheart Omega (talk) 18:14, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Issue with Forecast image
I write on 31 August and it is turning West, not East. Regardless - doesn't anyone think a forecast is a bit presumtive on Wikipedia? I know NOAA is a reputable source, but they can't even predict the weather three days from now. Is Wikipedia now open to all prognosticators? --96.244.244.244 (talk) 22:48, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Where did the fatalities occur?
The introduction says: " Isaac passed over Hispaniola and Cuba as a strong tropical storm, killing at least 29 people", but when you check the details it says the 29 dead were in Haiti. So where did the fatalities occur? - if not in Cuba shouldn't the introduction be more specific?Ottawahitech (talk) 23:07, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
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