Talk:.hack//Sign

Starting point

Well, there's a suitable starting point for expanding this article. I'm a little hesitant to do a more detailed plot (as I'm still not sure I understand the entirety of the series myself), but I'm willing to add pieces later. I've also set up .hack//SIGN as a redirect to this page (as apparently it's somewhat difficult to link to .hack//SIGN instead of "dot hack sign") We should definately reconsider moving it and changing this to a redirect page in the future if possible though.

Pipian 19:29 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I don't see the difficulty linking to .hack//SIGN myself; as you can see these work fine with no link tweaking. Does anyone know why the article is at its present name? - Hephaestos 22:44 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I wrote it here as Emperorbma changed the link from .hack//SIGN to dot hack sign on List of anime. I merely carried the naming convention over for dot hack and the various .hack series listed on that page. I imagine it can be changed fairly easily however. - Pipian 23:19 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I'm gonna go ahead and switch the .hack pages around to the standard naming practices (.hack//SIGN, etc.) -- Pipian

Unison

There is a 28th episode now, I think. Called UNISON?

It's an OAV, along with the 27th episode. -- Pipian

Well, should we include both or neither?

I think I'll just make it "26 episodes on TV and 2 OAV episodes"

• Unison actually takes place after the second season, the name of which translates to "Legend of Twilight" but is commonly referred to as "Legend of the Twilight Bracelet", which seems to be the closest English translation of the intended title. Unison is basically the characters from the first season meeting the characters from the second season, which features only (a redesigned) Aura, Helba, and Ginkan (Silver Knight, if you saw it in America) makes a cameo, from the first season. Either they're two seasons, or they're two completely seperate Animes set in the dot-hack universe. (As dot-hack is the only Anime I follow, I don't know all the ins and outs of the culture.) - Dark Reality

Uh, no. "Unison" doesn't take place after .hack//Tasogare no Udewa Densetsu (.hack//Legend of the Twilight Bracelet, or .hack//Legend of the Twilight outside of Japan). In "Unison", the characters include the real Kite and BlackRose, not Shuugo and Rena, who later inherited the "skins" of the .hackers. This episode also alludes to the rivalry between Mimiru and BlackRose that was humorously expanded on in "Gift". Aura's look in "Unison", "Gift" and all of .hack//LotTB mirrors how she appears in the games. The Trashman 23:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

About the Characters

Um, I don't believe there is enough info on the characters. I don't want to try and add as I don't want to screw up. I know this is rude, but could someone add more? I'd be glad to help (I have a grasp on the plot) with it.

If you're going to warn about spoilers, plus mention Morganna and her role in things(considering that isn't revealed till QUITE late in the series), why is there no mention of either the subplot about Tsukasa's RL gender, or even that he is in fact a she? Nezu Chiza 15:40, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

And yes I have experimented in the sandbox, but I want to be careful.

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I had an urge to throw in how I felt about this series, by the end I had very few answers and a ridiculous number of questions, and several hours of my life were gone watching the main character whine or scream about this or that.

If positive aspects to this show could be highlighted, or found in general. It´d be nice to be reminded of them.

This series are the love or hate kind. I loved them because of the slow pace and the sad atmosphere surrounding the main character, which is quite lost. Some hate it because of the lack of action; it's all talk. Or because of the lack of some answers, which I think fits the storyline very well. Sometimes one isn't supposed to know everything. Rvalles 00:10, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)

-- Guess what? Story length tripled, character section added, and more stuff coming. Welcome all =).Darkshikari

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In the characters section, about Harold - "Because he was disappointed in himself for failing as a father in real life, he created Aura, an AI, to serve as his "daughter" in The World"
I didn't see anything in the series about that. My impression was, Aura was to represent a daughter between himself and Emma Wielant, who died before he had a serious romantic relationship with. It didn't seem to me that he failed as a father, just that he never was a father, biologically speaking. Was there something I missed in the show?
MagusDrumheller 23:12, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

It's probably a misunderstanding, Harold expresses to be very sorry for his failing, failing to raise Aura because of Morgana's rebelion, that is.Requiem the 18^th_(email)

Title screen

I replaced the old title screen image with one that was easier to see when thumbnailed. The Trashman 23:35, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Legend of the Twilight

Please do not change this title. This is the official English title used by Tokyopop and Bandai for the releases in the States. I checked on the Amazon.co.uk site to see if they used "Bracelet" in the title, and while I can find it listed three times with "Bracelet" in the title, I can't find any covers that actually have the title using "Bracelet." --nihon 21:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Weasel Words

I put the Weasel Words template up. Listen to this: "The storyline is quite slow and layered—the viewer is quite often fed false information and red herrings, making it quite hard to figure out what is going on until it is finally revealed towards the end of the series. Character development is also extremely critical to the series; there are few flat characters, and each of the important characters goes through great change through the story." There are a lot of opinions in there. Slow an layered? Some might think so, but some may not. Quite hard to figure out what's going on? Some watchers may find it slightly easier. Character devolopment may be critical to the series, but that can be said better to make is sound less biased. Also, not everyone may find the "flat characters" flat. There is a lot of bias like this throughout the article, and someone needs to go through and check it. M2K e 01:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll try to elicidate (some spoilers cannot be avoided here):

• slow: It takes a long time as in number of episodes to discover why Tsubasa cannot log out and who truly is behind the player Tsubasa. Same goes for a lot of others such as Maha. After all the plot has to last for 26+ episodes.
• layered: There is the World of the game and there is the real world outside. Not all characters exist in both.
• what is going on: Well, was it really obvious who/what was behind Tsubasa?
• character devolopment: This is critical for Bear taking responsibility for Tsubasa's real life character in the end, as well as how alliances form throughout the story

While I did not write the article being critisised I feel the autor has a sound and objective basis for the claims. Words might be rephrased to make it clearer but that will necessarily spoil far more of the twists than required for an overall decription of the story. --13:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)