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For human beings, thinking can reveal the secrets of the universe. In fact, we see the world by thinking about it.

Wikipedia style rules

The great thing about NPOV is that you aren't claiming anything, except to say, "So-and-so argues that ____________, and therefore, ___________." From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/FAQ#Writing_for_the_.22enemy.22

Stub on philosophy of applied knowledge

An animal looks at the sky and knows it is night; a human does the same and "knows" the universe came out of nowhere about 15 billion years ago.

Thinking about this difference between us and the rest of the animal kingdom, leads some humans to arrogance; and others to deep humility. Thus, thinking again determines how we see ourselves and the world.

If early education did nothing more than explore the implication of this aspect of human reality, it could contribute more to secure the long term sustainability of global civilization than what is allowed by it’s current obsession with the mechanical skills of the “three Rs”.

Janosabel 19:16, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Added last paragraph 8 May 2007[reply]

Four years later I am still hooked on Wikipedia in spite of all the frustrations it can cause. I am now looking for my sandbox. Janosabel (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dealing with image upload problems

License tagging for Image:BinaryLoansGraphics.jpg

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I tried to follow these instructions but am not sure if I succeeded. Is my image, Image:BinaryLoansGraphics.jpg OK now?

Janosabel 18:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:OneWmanyF.jpg listed for deletion

Dear uploader: The media file you uploaded as Image:OneWmanyF.jpg has been listed for speedy deletion because you selected a copyright license type implying some type of restricted use, such as for non-commercial use only, or for educational use only or for use on Wikipedia by permission. While it might seem reasonable to assume that such files can be freely used on Wikipedia, this is in fact not the case[1][2]. Please do not upload any more files with these restrictions on them, because content on Wikipedia needs to be compatible with the GNU Free Documentation License, which allows anyone to use it for any purpose, commercial or non-commercial. See our non-free content guidelines for more more information.

If you created this media file and want to use it on Wikipedia, you may re-upload it (or amend the image description if it has not yet been deleted) and use the license {{GFDL-self-no-disclaimers}} to license it under the GFDL, or {{cc-by-sa-2.5}} to license it under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license, or use {{PD-self}} to release it into the public domain.

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If you have any questions please ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Thank you. BigDT 03:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your image uploads

I noticed while going through images tagged for speedy deletion that you have uploaded several images and expressed difficulty with Wikipedia's image use policy.

I know it can be a lot to understand ... but the short version is that we can only use images where the author explicitly says that anyone may use the image for any reason, including commercial reuse.

The vast majority of images found on the internet are not appropriate for use on Wikipedia. Even if the website where you found the image does not have a copyright statement, the image is still copyrighted. Any time you make a creative work (photo, painting, musical recording, etc), you automatically own all rights to reproduction of that work. In other words, nobody anywhere can copy your photo without your permission. Even if you publish your photo on your website, that doesn't give someone else the right to put it on their website.

Even if the author gives Wikipedia permission to use the photo, that permission is not enough. There are several websites like about.com and answers.com that mirror Wikipedia content and use advertisements - so simply having permission to use a photo here is incompatible with those uses.

Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission has detailed information about requesting an appropriate release from a copyright holder. If you feel that the photo is of sufficient value and would like to try to get a release, it has the information that you need and there is a link in there to a sample letter. I have been pretty successful getting releases from individuals, but not at all from websites that are more than just the product of one person.

I hope this helps! --BigDT 04:11, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for these helpful comments.

I am helping an author, Rodney Shakespeare (real name), with uploading the article and photos and was hoping that by doing this in my sandbox (I am only learning what to do) I could avoid, for the time being, the photo copyright issues as they will not be visible to readers.

Can there be a temporary exemption from the automaticl deletion process in such a case? (valid e-mail permissions are beginning to arrive).

Meanwhile I am perusing the relvant material at the suggested links.

Janosabel 10:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, everything on Wikipedia is immediately visible to anyone, so it is necessary for everything to comply with our image us policies. I wish that we had the good sense to exclude user pages from search engines, but for whatever reason, we don't. You could use a black box as a placeholder in your sandbox while awaiting an image upload if you want to. When you do receive permissions, please be sure to forward them to "permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org". Someone with m:OTRS access will receive the email and will put a special tag on the image saying that its copyright information has been verified. Submissions are confidential (only someone with access to the system can get to them), but it is important for the permission to be on file with the foundation. --BigDT 15:38, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

License tagging for Image:TrisaktiWomen.jpg

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Image copyright problem with Image:Trisakti1.jpg

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Image tagging

The description page needs to have on it:

The name of the person or company that created the image
A tag showing the type of permission they gave you - in other words, if they agreed to release it under the GFDL, just add {{GFDL}} to the page
A statement like "The owner of company XYZ agreed to release this image under the GFDL in personal correspondance"

That will suffice until someone handles the m:OTRS ticket. I am not a user on that system, so I have no ability to look it up, but if it takes more than a few days, we can contact someone listed at m:OTRS#Permissions. --BigDT 12:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for adopting my case. This kind of ste-by-step help is the only way I can cope with these legal requirements. I hope they are right this time.

Janosabel 17:25, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look at the image description pages ... both look fine now. Someone with OTRS access will handle your ticket when they get to it. Once they do whatever they need to do, they will tag the image with a special tag that means the permission has been confirmed. (See Image:2007 Virginia Tech massacre candlelight vigil.jpg for an example - under the "permission" section, there is a note that permission has been confirmed and giving people with OTRS access a link to view the permission.) --BigDT 18:06, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Binary economics

Hi! When you get the time to do so would you look at the things I suggested on the talk page? I was just brainstorming when I wrote most of it so feel free to comment on it. I really feel that the article could be vastly improved if some of what is in it now was clarified and we then added a section on microfinance to illustrate a practical example of how at least parts of the theory could and is being implemented. That way the article would no longer be about an economic theory/school with marginal interest from professional economists. It would be about an economic theory/school that, although not mentioned by name, is at least being partially implemented. That's much better and the article could then be completely detagged. MartinDK 13:50, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Binary economics (post discussion version)

A {{prod}} template has been added to the article Binary economics (post discussion version), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{db-author}}. Haemo 00:21, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alice Bailey

I saw a comment of yours suggesting you had some knowledge of Alice Bailey. If so, you might provide helpful input to the developing biography. James 00:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of "New Money"

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Speedy deletion of New Money

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Speedy deletion of New Money

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January 2009
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The entry seems needed in the context of the article Quantitative easing.
Is this not sufficient context?

Your hostile editorial policy is amazing. Could not you say that unapproved articles will be deleted in x hours? What is the hurry? Is the Wikipedia server running out of space? Janosabel (talk) 22:14, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just wanted to let you know that I've left you another note on Talk:New Money. --PeruvianLlama^(spit) 01:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
On a related note: if in the future anybody ever adds a "speedy deletion" tag to an article you've created, and you think you have a good argument for that article not being deleted, then simply add the following (both sets of braces included) to the top of the page: {{hangon}}. That little snippet will let any deletion-happy admins know that the article's author wants a few minutes to make a case for keeping the article on its associated talk page, and will give you enough time to throw out a couple sentences to convince them, or at the very least engage them in a dialogue. It's unlikely that anyone leaving a message on your talk page (like Mayalld did above) will check your talk page again for your responses. This is just because of the technical way Wikipedia communication works, and not because they don't want to hear from you. Cheers! --PeruvianLlama^(spit) 01:33, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Proposed deletion of General Evolution Research Group

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My help page
A subpage usually refers to a lower level web page in a website or wiki with the same main name as the starting level page plus a slash and text identifying the location of the subpage. More precisely, it refers to a part of the path in the hierarchical part of the Uniform Resource Identifier (also known as URI or URL).
For example, if the name of the main page were :first, a typical subpage would be called :first/second. In most implementations this system is recursive, so that subpages can have their own subpages (e.g. :first/second/third).

Janosabel/first
My saga with a stub on Folk economics
Just in case it is speedily deleted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Folk_economics.
Note: Want to start Folk Economics as requested at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Business_and_economics#Economics Will have to learn a lot to even start an article. Is it worth it? The system is very harsh on newbe contributions. So it seems to encourage editors to act as gatekeepers of accepted wisdom. Galileo would not have allowed a looking with the "no original research" rule.
Can someone show simply how to do the references properly? I have no time to spend hours on a course to comply with the strict rules imposed by the system. Valuable creative contributions may be rejected by these robotic restrictions. The article was asked for at the Wikiproject Economicd site.Janosabel (talk) 13:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Definition of Folk economics
Folk economics is intuitive economics of untrained people. ^[1] Will this do as reference? No, I still do not get it.
What the hell is missing? Is this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Referencing_for_beginners#Inserting_a_reference what I need? and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial.
Or learn from others at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ervin_L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3#cite_note-0

Now another reference: ^[2]. OK, but if it is the same reference at some other place there is another trick (see ^[1]). Very clever nut not at all "intuitive".

Here come some examples^{[citation needed]} of the chilling warnings plaguing a newbe editor:

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Moving your page into userspace
Hi, I moved the page that you created, Janosabel(section)/first/second to User:Janosabel(section)/first/second. That type of personal use page belongs in User Space rather than in Article Space. First Light (talk) 21:17, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Same goes for Janosabel(section)/first ---> User:Janosabel(section)/first, and any others that I find. Please read those lings on Article Space and User Space. First Light (talk) 21:20, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop creating userpages in article space
Please read the links I provided above, and stop creating pages in Article Space that belong in your own User Space. Your subpages should always begin with "User:Janosabel", rather than with just "Janosabel". Thanks, First Light (talk) 21:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome
Welcome...
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Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! First Light (talk) 22:08, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Re: LVT - Salutions
Dear Janosabel, Regarding LVT, I think the work of Dr. Michael Hudson is excellent on these issues. Both monetary and LVT and other tax reforms need to be part of a theory in order to put everything in context. The Labour Theory of Value and Rent theory of Price are key parts of this. See: The Theory of Rent Needs a Theory of History Take Care, Sincerly, William WjtWeston (talk) 19:45, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment acknowledged.

Janosabel (talk) 14:41, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Janosabel,
I read an interesting article by Michael Hudson concerning the failure of Georges reforms to be enacted.
Henry George's Political Critics WjtWeston (talk) 20:59, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're invited to LangCamp 2012
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FFernando.02 (talk) 10:17, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[folkE-1] Southern Economic Journal

[2] Southern Economic Journal

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 [http://michael-hudson.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/0801GeorgesCritics.pdf Henry George's Political Critics]
 [[User:WjtWeston|WjtWeston]] ([[User talk:WjtWeston|talk]]) 20:59, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
+== You're invited to LangCamp 2012 ==
+Hello, Wikimedia Australia will holding Language Camp 2012 at the University of Indonesia on 6-7 December 2012.
+The workshop has two streams: Indigenous Languages and OER ([[Open educational resources]]).
+If you are interested to come and would like to ask more information please contact the committee: committee@wikimedia.org.au
+For further information please visit: [[v:LangCamp_2012]]
+[[User:FFernando.02|FFernando.02]] ([[User talk:FFernando.02|talk]]) 10:17, 27 November 2012 (UTC)