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== "this was written in three languages: Hebrew, Latin and Greek on a placard that was placed above Y'shua on the Cross" == |
== "this was written in three languages: Hebrew, Latin and Greek on a placard that was placed above Y'shua on the Cross" == |
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'''[[John 19:20]] states that this was written in three languages: Hebrew, Latin and Greek on a placard that was placed above Y'shua on the Cross.''' This added |
'''[[John 19:20]] states that this was written in three languages: Hebrew, Latin and Greek on a placard that was placed above Y'shua on the Cross.''' This added description is important! - Ben Hirt |
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Distinction from INRI
I thought about adding this material to the INRI page, but then realized that given that the King of the Jews also applies to the Magi episode beginning of the life of Jesus, this article should be distinct from INRI which only applies to a smaller episode in the Passion, and not to the magi at all. So these should be separate pages. History2007 (talk) 13:32, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Contradicts INRI article regarding 'INBI'
This article says that 'INBI' means 'King of Glory' while the INRI article says that 'INBI' means 'Jesus, King of the Jews' where 'B' is 'ὁ βασιλεὺς', and goes on to say that 'INBK' means either 'The King of the World' or 'The King of Glory'. I cannot verify references to printed books. So I am not sure what the sources have to say on this. Elizium23 (talk) 21:20, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- Contradiction in Wikipedia? Never... But seriously, I did notice that, and INBI is the Greek version, as the image from Ellwangen Abbey also shows when it is written in 3 languages, the 2nd being INBI. I have now fixed that, Thanks. Now "Ἰησοῦς ὁ Ναζωραῖος ὁ βασιλεὺς τῶν Ἰουδαίων" reads Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews as that article says and "βασιλεὺς" is king and "τῆς Δόξης" glory, so that is right now. History2007 (talk) 22:20, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Version section reference to Hebrew
Just a question regarding the reference to Hebrew as being on the inscription. The greek word from John 19:20 is εβραιστι which could mean Aramaic. Especially since if memory serves correct, only priests would have spoken actual Hebrew at this time, and the common people spoke Aramaic. This would have been the "Hebrew tongue" and not actual Hebrew. I've no idea what the Aramaic translation would be. Any thoughts? Nerdtek (talk) 01:05, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- Okay I just looked in the Peshitta which is the Aramaic New Testament. Matthew 27:37 the part that refers to the title ܗܢܘ ܝܫܘܥ ܡܠܟܐ ܕܝܗܘܕܝܐ
- which is the following word ids 5010 (pronoun, this is), 9573(Jesus), 11969(king), 8911(jews) if anyone is interested the following link http://dukhrana.com/peshitta/index.php can be used for reference. As to the pronounciation I'm at a loss. Nerdtek (talk) 02:35, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- Actually all of that would be discussion among editors and WP:OR. The source says Hebrew. The source wins against us - always. History2007 (talk) 03:42, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
"this was written in three languages: Hebrew, Latin and Greek on a placard that was placed above Y'shua on the Cross"
John 19:20 states that this was written in three languages: Hebrew, Latin and Greek on a placard that was placed above Y'shua on the Cross. This added description is important! - Ben Hirt