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Under "Administration", third bullet, there is mention of "the significance of a caution". What is the significance of a caution? That is, what does the subject suffer by accepting a caution? |
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What does a caution look like, as it is printed out for reading to a miscreant? knoodelhed 07:42, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- I have no idea, sorry. However, I suspect that, since it is a formal procedure, at least one form will be involved, which the person being cautioned signs... just a guess though. lmno 11:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you will find a copy here: Simple caution acceptance proforma
Ron Barker (talk) 18:26, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Under "Administration", third bullet, there is mention of "the significance of a caution". What is the significance of a caution? That is, what does the subject suffer by accepting a caution? 50.101.210.28 (talk) 16:17, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
(UK) distinguishing from 'reading the rights'
Shouldn't there be a link here about cautions upon arrest under PACE code C s10.5 et al?
It's just that with the similar terminology I think it would make things clearer for the non-lawyers Tybalt 00:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
"You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention, when questioned, something that you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be used in evidence."
I have just reviewed this article, I am not sure that the 'When Questioned' caution is relevant for this. Perhaps this would be best placed within its own section. The Police Cation referred to in this article is clearly not the 'Reading The Rights' one.
I think perhaps this would be better placed elsewhere. Opinions? Lukeyboyuk (talk) 22:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Time period and age
I'm not convinced about some of the facts here:
- I know someone that received a police caution whilst under 17. This was about 15 years ago. Has the law been changed on this?
- I know that the PNC keeps records of offences for 10 years, i.e.: if you ask for a Records Check, a caution up to 10 years ago will show up. Essexmutant 17:14, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Simple cautions normally expire after 5 years. --82.31.164.172 (talk) 09:31, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- What the police DO and what they are SUPPOSED to do often diverge. The Home Office has (mildly) chastised the police on at least one occasion for using a caution for indictable only offences. Wiki-is-truth 06:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Seriously, can anybody confirm whether young offenders (17 and under) can or cannot get cautions? I did not find any such condition on the CPS web site. Ratfox (talk) 14:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
You need to look at Reprimands & Final Warnings for those under 18 Lukeyboyuk (talk) 22:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Scotland
I am fairly sure a caution is not an option in Scotland, perhaps that should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.12.220 (talk) 21:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
In my view the wording on the Home Office website on pilice cautions is extremely misleading. Caution is not a criminal conviction is in the context a tautology. I fear very much that there are individuals who are informed that a caution is available, admit to offences which they may or may not have committed and then do not realise the full implications of accepting a caution until the end of interview when it is too late. I am afraid that my source as to what a cautioed person must sign is in private papers and correspondence from Police and Home Office if anyone has a publicly available source could they please share it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lockstone (talk • contribs) 11:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Found references —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lockstone (talk • contribs) 11:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
any right to appeal?
For the benefit of the Yanks: Do UK subjects have the right to appeal a police caution, especially one that remains on a person's record, to a judicial authority (as opposed to an executive one like a police force, or at least the police forces of the American model)?
Thanks!
spent cautions - how long does it take?
"cautions (including reprimands and warnings) are covered by the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 so will become spent immediately (apart from conditional cautions which will become spent after 3 months).[8] Simple cautions normally expire after 5 years whereas conditional cautions expire after the designated conditions are met."
So are they spent immediately/after 3 months? Or are they spent after 5 years/after the conditions are met? This section is contradictory - hopefully someone with the requisite knowledge can fix this.90.196.178.187 (talk) 07:50, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Simple cautions are spent immediately and conditional cautions are spent after 3 months, although they can show up on DBS checks within five years from the date of the caution. I clarified that part of the article. Some other areas of the article might need fixing too (e.g. broken links, reorganisation). I may have another look soon. --86.4.251.50 (talk) 14:24, 15 April 2013 (UTC)