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Dong Jin Kim

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Doesn't seem to meet any notability criteria. Almost all of sources are to his biography on his school's web site. As for claims of notability, teaching classes is not notable. Many instructors teach police and military. I don't think his kendo championship is enough to show notability on its own. Winning one national tournament for 50+ year olds doesn't seem enough to me, but others may disagree.Mdtemp (talk) 20:23, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. czar · · 21:59, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

This individual created a martial art that is used at the National Defense University and being taught to the U.S. Military there. It is part of the curriculum. He is not listed here because he "he teaches classes." He is listed because he has a National Championship. Kim has only been in the United States as a U.S. Citizen for a few years and his "50 years" should not be taken into consideration. Mdtemp, I know you are a MMA fan but Kendo is important to a lot of people. His winning a National Champion ship, plus the fact he founded a martial arts style is why he is here. Subsequently, the style, Jigo-Tensin-Ryu Jujutsu also has an article. 69.243.110.100 (talk) 12:38, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

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• Keep Although I study a different school of Kendo, Kim is considered one of the top practitioners and teachers of the sport here in the U.S. I would rather promote my school, but having this on here is good for the sport, especially here in the U.S. There are very few, if not any, practioners at his level here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.107.123 (talk) 18:02, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
• Very weak Keep Technically, winning a U.S. championship (especially an age related one) may not strictly meet WP:MANOTE, but I can live with that. However, combined with the lack of independent sources this article does have some issues. I'd prefer to see some additional sources, but I don't really feel strongly about the article either way. Astudent0 (talk) 18:22, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Astudent0, I see your point. His students are some of my biggest competitors so I dont want to sound too supportive....lol Maybe Emery can find some more sources for his Kim article. As i said its good for the sport here in the US.

• Delete I don't believe that being the winner of a senior's championship fulfills WP:MANOTE. I am unable to find much, if any, significant coverage on the subject thus appears to fail WP:GNG. --TreyGeek (talk) 03:43, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

NOTE: I went through the article and cleaned it up. A number of images uploaded to commons appears to be possible copyright violations from the subject's dojo's(?) website (or at the very least were given inaccurate attribution. So, I removed them and tagged them appropriately on Commons). It also seems a lot of the citations given to paragraphs didn't actually have the information being cited as far as I could tell, so those were removed. --TreyGeek (talk)

• still keepTreygeek thank you for helping clean up, however being at NDU those are my images. Also its a National Championship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emery80 (talk • contribs) 11:27, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
• merge I merged this page into Jigo Tensin Ryu.