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I am a visiting fellow with the Smithsonian National Museum of African Art. They provide sources and I write articles. Leave a note if you'd like updates.

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Rare Replay scheduled for TFA[edit]

This is to let you know that the Rare Replay article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 4 August 2017. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 4, 2017. Thanks! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:18, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

The Nutcracker and the Four Realms[edit]

Hello! Need another histmerge of Draft:The Nutcracker and the Four RealmsThe Nutcracker and the Four Realms — Just leave the last edit in the draft done by TriiipleThreat. Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 17:16, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

@Captain Assassin!, done czar 17:19, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons Newsletter, July 19, 2017[edit]

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons?[edit]

The millions of files on Wikimedia Commons are described with a lot of information or (meta)data. With the project Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons, this data is structured more, and is made machine-readable. This will make it easier to view, search (also multilingually), edit, organize and re-use the files on Commons.

In early 2017, the Sloan Foundation funded this project (see documentation). Development takes place in 2017–2020. It involves staff from the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland (WMDE) and many volunteers. To achieve this, Wikibase support is added to Wikimedia Commons. Wikibase is the technology that is also used for Wikidata.

Recent developments: groundwork[edit]

  • A new and crucial technical step (federation) now makes it possible to reference data from one Wikibase website in another. Because of this, it will be possible to use Wikidata's items and properties to describe media files on Commons.
  • Another important piece of groundwork is under development: so-called Multi-Content Revisions. This feature allows structured data to be stored alongside wiki text, so that one wiki page can contain several types of content.

Team updates[edit]

  • Amanda Bittaker was hired as Program Manager for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons. Amanda will take care of the overall management of the project.
  • Sandra Fauconnier (known as Spinster in her volunteer capacity) is the new Community Liaison. She will support the collaboration between the communities (Commons, Wikidata, GLAM) and the product development teams at the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland.
  • We have open positions for a UX designer and a Product Manager!

Talking with communities and allies[edit]

  • Long-term feedback from GLAMs. Besides the Wikimedia community, many external cultural and knowledge institutions (GLAMs - Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) are interested in Structured Data on Commons and are willing to provide feedback on the long-term plans for the project. Alex Stinson, GLAM strategist at the Wikimedia Foundation, is currently in contact with Europeana, DPLA, the Smithsonian and the National Archives of the United States. Alex is also looking for other GLAM institutions who might be able to advise on the long term. If you know of an institution or partner that may be appropriate for consultation, do get in touch with Alex.
  • Jonathan Morgan, design researcher, is starting to work on two projects:

What comes next?[edit]

  • The Structured Data on Commons team meets in the week after Wikimania to lay the groundwork for the next steps. This includes new backend development and design work, for better and more clear integration of the structured data in pages on Wikimedia Commons.
  • The project's information pages on Wikimedia Commons will receive a long overdue update in the upcoming months. The team will also work on more and better communication channels. Feedback, wishes and tips are welcome at the project's general talk page.

Get involved[edit]

Many greetings from SandraF (WMF) (talk), Community Liaison for this project! 13:55, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Need some eyes on Talk:Cuckservative please[edit]

I noticed you have edited this article in the somewhat recent past. There's an IP/SPA editor who is posting accusations & now verging into WP:NPA territory - they are posting at a rapid rate so who knows what they've posted since I started here. But this article & its talkpage have a tendency be a hornets' nest so would like some backup around before I decide to wade in. (FYI: I have also posted this same message at Ad Orientem's talkpage). Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 17:04, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Dragged Across Concrete[edit]

Hello! Please move Draft:Dragged Across ConcreteDragged Across Concrete — Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 02:51, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

@Captain Assassin!, done czar 02:55, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronic music#Sub-project EDM[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronic music#Sub-project EDM as a participant of WP:WikiProject Electronic music. - TheMagnificentist 13:39, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

National Museum of African Art[edit]

Morning Czar, for reasons I'm not quite sure about, the bot doesn't seem to be putting the notifications through, so I'm just dropping you a note to let you know I'm done with the GAR and the article's On Hold. I would stress that some of the comments made are suggestions, not requirements, and you're quite at liberty to reject them! It's a strong, well-written, well-referenced article on an interesting topic and was a pleasure to review. Just raise any queries on the Review page and I'll respond there. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 11:29, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of National Museum of African Art[edit]

The article National Museum of African Art you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold Symbol wait.svg. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:National Museum of African Art for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of KJP1 -- KJP1 (talk) 11:40, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you, Czar, for creating the new article, Devil's Bargain.

All references now used to expand the article, and all converted to in-line citations. Sagecandor (talk) 23:05, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Can you please revert[edit]

Can you please revert your changes at Elijah Daniel ?

1. It screws up the refs columns and I very much prefer the footnotes section.

2. Hate the book section. Please can you revert this? This is just awful. Forever his whole life will be described out of order chronologically. This is just wrong.

Please revert yourself ?

Sagecandor (talk) 04:09, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Gotta give me a chance to respond to your messages on the article talk page before posting elsewhere... "Forever his whole life"? It's an encyclopedia article—please keep an open mind and try not to take edits to heart? I justified my edits in their edit summary and on the talk page, but do what you will. czar 04:20, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Czar? It's going to be out of chronological order like that forever? With a dedicated book section? And all the later 2017 stuff appears above it? That is out of order? Can you please self revert? Please? Sagecandor (talk) 04:22, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Nothing on WP is forever. He could write another book and the whole section could become a level-2 header. The book could split out summary style and the separate subsection could become unnecessary. The book certainly needs a subsection to separate it from the rest of the career, and it wouldn't make sense to add another subsection just for his post-book activities. It's more sensible to group by theme than chronology in this case. Feel free to revert if you want, but I think the pre-copyedit version's organization is a step backwards czar 04:31, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
I strongly disagree and I much prefer a straight chronological style that is not out of order. I'm asking you to please self revert, can you please do that, please? Sagecandor (talk) 04:37, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Done czar 04:45, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry[edit]


I'm sorry if I've upset you in any way.

Please understand this particular article feels like ... it feels like multiple bosses with multiple different hats, each wanting the article to change in a different particular direction -- until there's nothing left at all but one sentence.

And then it would be much easier to delete it.

While it's ongoing at AFD.

It would be different if all this wasn't happening at same time as a deletion discussion.

But it is.

It makes it more stressful.

I know you don't want the page gone, but others, do.

Most strenuously so, they do.

They've poured lots and lots of energies into trying to make that happen, commenting at the AFD in reply to many different people.

I admit it's been a bit stressful trying to respond to different queries from different parties trying to whittle down the article to nothing or get it deleted.

And to then be followed over to your user talk page by another user with sarcasm, etc. [1]

Once again, Czar, I'm quite sorry if you're upset by all this.

Sagecandor (talk) 05:01, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Hey Sage, it's okay, but I think this can be a good lesson in not taking things personally. How long do you plan to defend this one article from outside edits? How long do you think it'll remain more or less with the same sentence structure? The best reason why articles don't belong to any one editor on WP: Everyone moves on, and you have to trust whomever comes after you. The article that was your world for weeks on end will fall into disarray (eventually—not immediately!) and really the only thing you can do about it is tighten the prose so no one sees anything to fix in the future (i.e., have a really good copy editor). You're concerned about forever, but I'd be more concerned about the red flags other editors are throwing than about how the article will look in ten years. When your edits get a bit obsessive (Talk:Elijah Daniel), you can afford to unwatch the pages, or even take a week off for your own health. The encyclopedia goes on just fine without either of us, and the Daniel article will be fine in a week, a year. And if a crater is all that remains of the article after a month, perhaps there is a lesson to be learned from what others agreed was appropriate to remove. The best you can do is put forth your best argument and get out of the way. But if being edited by others (bosses with hats) brings you inordinate stress, wikis won't be a great fit. Power's comment was snide, but surely you get the point (and would be wise to drop it)—if your editing habits are making yourself (and others) miserable, move on to topics/pastimes/work that will bring you some joy. czar 05:35, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Yes, you're right. I think I've also been quite stressed out about this issue. Sagecandor (talk) 05:37, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion[edit]

Thank you, Czar, for your suggestion to me to help you improve the page you created, Devil's Bargain.

I really appreciate your thinking of me.

I'm glad you liked the way I expanded the page.

Maybe sometimes it's easier to work on pages that have a defined beginning, middle, and end.

If you have other suggestions for articles to expand, or even better yet, create, feel free to let me know.

Sagecandor (talk) 05:20, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Stepping back from article[edit]

I'm going to follow your wiser example and step back from the article, Elijah Daniel.

I wish other editors the best of luck to improve the page.

Thank you,

Sagecandor (talk) 05:29, 22 July 2017 (UTC)