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In regards to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAllen3&diff=565517121&oldid=564443193 your recent edit], please learn to check your facts before making baseless accusations of wrong doing. Wikipedia defines vandalism as "[[WP:Vandalism|any addition, removal, or change of content in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia]]". If you check the effect of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2012_Yunnan_earthquakes&diff=511278359&oldid=511277922 edit that you question] you will see the net result is to change the map displayed in the article's infobox from a close up of a single Chinese province to a map of the entire country. How does using a map that allows most English speaking readers to better understand the location of an event qualify as vandalism under Wikipedia's definition? Do you honestly believe that most visitors to the English language Wikipedia possess detailed knowledge of China's geography? It might also be useful if you determine who added the infobox to the article and see if that person has any problems with the change (hint, the addition occurred 3 minutes prior to the edit you have labelled as vandalism). Finally I would suggest you read essays such as [[Wikipedia:On assuming good faith]], [[Wikipedia:Avoid the word "vandal"]], and [[Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars]]. The advice contained in these essays, and the other pages these essays link to, would help you avoid inappropriate actions such as the edit which prompted this message. --''[[User: Allen3|Allen3]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Allen3|talk]]</sup> 19:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC) |
In regards to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAllen3&diff=565517121&oldid=564443193 your recent edit], please learn to check your facts before making baseless accusations of wrong doing. Wikipedia defines vandalism as "[[WP:Vandalism|any addition, removal, or change of content in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia]]". If you check the effect of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2012_Yunnan_earthquakes&diff=511278359&oldid=511277922 edit that you question] you will see the net result is to change the map displayed in the article's infobox from a close up of a single Chinese province to a map of the entire country. How does using a map that allows most English speaking readers to better understand the location of an event qualify as vandalism under Wikipedia's definition? Do you honestly believe that most visitors to the English language Wikipedia possess detailed knowledge of China's geography? It might also be useful if you determine who added the infobox to the article and see if that person has any problems with the change (hint, the addition occurred 3 minutes prior to the edit you have labelled as vandalism). Finally I would suggest you read essays such as [[Wikipedia:On assuming good faith]], [[Wikipedia:Avoid the word "vandal"]], and [[Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars]]. The advice contained in these essays, and the other pages these essays link to, would help you avoid inappropriate actions such as the edit which prompted this message. --''[[User: Allen3|Allen3]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Allen3|talk]]</sup> 19:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC) |
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:1) The indisputable fact that it is a reduction of precision amounts to unexplained removal of content. 2) Yes, I cannot speak for the ignorance or cognizance of visitors to English-language Wikipedia, but one thing I am certain about is: in an equivalent article on an earthquake in the U.S., knowledge of the state, even if happens to be as unimportant as Missouri, is more often than not assumed. If you are from the U.S. and read international news outlets regularly, you should also know. This is unfair treatment, given China is, in terms of geographic area, equivalent to the U.S. 3) As I have alluded to in numerous edit summaries, to introduce a province ''every fucking time it is mentioned'' (yes, your switch of the pushpin map may be interpreted in that light) in a biographical, events, etc. article consumes far too much space and actually <u>belittles</u> the reader's knowledge. If the reader happens to not know, then a wikilink serves that purpose, and IMO, provides a greater incentive to look up information on one's own than stupidly blurting out, for example, "the explosion, which occurred in Northeast China's Jilin province, killed...". More importantly, making exceptions to this "introduce the province" rule that exists in most media sources for only Beijing and Shanghai: A) does little to improve readers' knowledge of Chinese geography. B) potentially casts other areas in an unimportant light. ''GotR'' <sup>[[User talk:Guardian of the Rings|Talk]]</sup> 20:21, 23 July 2013 (UTC) |
:1) The indisputable fact that it is a reduction of precision amounts to unexplained removal of content. 2) Yes, I cannot speak for the ignorance or cognizance of visitors to English-language Wikipedia, but one thing I am certain about is: in an equivalent article on an earthquake in the U.S., knowledge of the state, even if happens to be as unimportant as Missouri, is more often than not assumed. If you are from the U.S. and read international news outlets regularly, you should also know. This is unfair treatment, given China is, in terms of geographic area, equivalent to the U.S. 3) As I have alluded to in numerous edit summaries, to introduce a province ''every fucking time it is mentioned'' (yes, your switch of the pushpin map may be interpreted in that light) in a biographical, events, etc. article consumes far too much space and actually <u>belittles</u> the reader's knowledge. If the reader happens to not know, then a wikilink serves that purpose, and IMO, provides a greater incentive to look up information on one's own than stupidly blurting out, for example, "the explosion, which occurred in Northeast China's Jilin province, killed...". More importantly, making exceptions to this "introduce the province" rule that exists in most media sources for only Beijing and Shanghai: A) does little to improve readers' knowledge of Chinese geography. B) potentially casts other areas in an unimportant light. ''GotR'' <sup>[[User talk:Guardian of the Rings|Talk]]</sup> 20:21, 23 July 2013 (UTC) |
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== FYI == |
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I noticed your recent back and forth with [[User:211oo1]] on the [[Xinjiang]] article. The editor that reverted your edit, [[User:Sayonara101]], has only three edits, and looks like a single-purpose account whose sole purpose was to add back the content that [[User:211oo1]] created. Does this look like something for [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations]]? I assume the reversion was made in good faith, and I can understand his frustration with the human rights situation in Xinjiang which I sympathize with, but the circumstantial evidence raises red flags.--[[User:Ross Monroe|Ross Monroe]] ([[User talk:Ross Monroe|talk]]) 13:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC) |
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Olympia, Washington. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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Default ordering of Template:Weather box
Thanks. Just need to find someone who knows how to fix the template. Plus the few left over conversion errors. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 07:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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Reminiscent of DC does not invalidate source. You could have made the JUL AUG corrections or tagged instead of deleting. I checked source & made some changes per source--JimWae (talk) 21:42, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Please check your facts before making baseless accusations (Was: 2012 Yunnan earthquakes)
In regards to your recent edit, please learn to check your facts before making baseless accusations of wrong doing. Wikipedia defines vandalism as "any addition, removal, or change of content in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia". If you check the effect of the edit that you question you will see the net result is to change the map displayed in the article's infobox from a close up of a single Chinese province to a map of the entire country. How does using a map that allows most English speaking readers to better understand the location of an event qualify as vandalism under Wikipedia's definition? Do you honestly believe that most visitors to the English language Wikipedia possess detailed knowledge of China's geography? It might also be useful if you determine who added the infobox to the article and see if that person has any problems with the change (hint, the addition occurred 3 minutes prior to the edit you have labelled as vandalism). Finally I would suggest you read essays such as Wikipedia:On assuming good faith, Wikipedia:Avoid the word "vandal", and Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars. The advice contained in these essays, and the other pages these essays link to, would help you avoid inappropriate actions such as the edit which prompted this message. --Allen3 talk 19:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- 1) The indisputable fact that it is a reduction of precision amounts to unexplained removal of content. 2) Yes, I cannot speak for the ignorance or cognizance of visitors to English-language Wikipedia, but one thing I am certain about is: in an equivalent article on an earthquake in the U.S., knowledge of the state, even if happens to be as unimportant as Missouri, is more often than not assumed. If you are from the U.S. and read international news outlets regularly, you should also know. This is unfair treatment, given China is, in terms of geographic area, equivalent to the U.S. 3) As I have alluded to in numerous edit summaries, to introduce a province every fucking time it is mentioned (yes, your switch of the pushpin map may be interpreted in that light) in a biographical, events, etc. article consumes far too much space and actually belittles the reader's knowledge. If the reader happens to not know, then a wikilink serves that purpose, and IMO, provides a greater incentive to look up information on one's own than stupidly blurting out, for example, "the explosion, which occurred in Northeast China's Jilin province, killed...". More importantly, making exceptions to this "introduce the province" rule that exists in most media sources for only Beijing and Shanghai: A) does little to improve readers' knowledge of Chinese geography. B) potentially casts other areas in an unimportant light. GotR Talk 20:21, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
FYI
I noticed your recent back and forth with User:211oo1 on the Xinjiang article. The editor that reverted your edit, User:Sayonara101, has only three edits, and looks like a single-purpose account whose sole purpose was to add back the content that User:211oo1 created. Does this look like something for Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations? I assume the reversion was made in good faith, and I can understand his frustration with the human rights situation in Xinjiang which I sympathize with, but the circumstantial evidence raises red flags.--Ross Monroe (talk) 13:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)