Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Channel One Cup (football)

Channel One Cup (football)

Channel One Cup (football) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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PROD removed with the reason of "good known tournament, plz start a full discussion." I disagree, and believe the original PROD rationale of "non-notable friendly competition, not significantly covered in reliable sources" remains valid. GiantSnowman 13:28, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2013 November 27. —cyberbot I ^Notify_Online 13:28, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for the exact same reason:

• 2006 Channel One Cup (football) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• 2007 Channel One Cup (football) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• 2008 Channel One Cup (football) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• 2009 Channel One Cup (football) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 13:31, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• Strong keep. No reason to delete this articles. Big coverage in Russian/Ukrainian media, not only in sports media, for example see [1] [2] [3] etc. Best clubs of the leagues took part in it. Potentially impact to create the United Russia-Ukraine league in future [4]. Similar notability as for other 2013 friendly tournaments. NickSt (talk) 15:45, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

• WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS - and coverage is WP:ROUTINE. GiantSnowman 18:32, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
  • WP:EANP. Normal coverage not different from another supercups. NickSt (talk) 19:13, 27 November 2013 (UTC) P.S. Seven interwikies. NickSt (talk) 23:41, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:18, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:18, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:18, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

• Strong Keep. This tournament had a lot of media coverage in Russia and Ukraine as well as other former Soviet states. I am always baffled when people with no knowledge in certain topics will take it upon themselves to rid Wikipedia of articles that don't matter to them just because they never heard of them. This nomination for deletion is a just another example of WP:Bias, because certain editors only want to present the "Anglophone Wikipedian's version of the world." --BoguSlav 00:59, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

• Please can you evidence that significant coverage? Your unfounded accusations of BIAS show how weak your claims are, you are grasping at straws. GiantSnowman 09:25, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

• Again, you illustrate my point. YOU don't know about this topic, therefore it must be not important. But, since you ask, I will spend some of my time showing some examples.

Here is a list of the news articles on ua-football.com from December 2008 (just one month):

1. [5]
2. [6]
3. [7]
4. [8]
5. [9]
6. [10]
7. [11]
8. [12]
9. [13]
10. [14]
11. [15]
12. [16]
13. [17]
14. [18]
15. [19]
16. [20]

Lets try another major Ukrainian football website, terrikon.com, looking just for the month of December 2008:

1. [21]
2. [22]
3. [23]
4. [24]
5. [25]
6. [26]
7. [27]
8. [28]
9. [29]
10. [30]
11. [31]
12. [32]
13. [33]
14. [34]
15. [35]
16. [36]
17. [37]
18. [38]

I can do the same thing for websites such as sport-express.ru, football.ua, sports.ru, sport.ua, hotsport.ua, comments.ua/sport, ua.championat.com, sportbox.ru, ukrfootball.kiev.ua, dynamomania.com, ukrainianfootball.com as well as many others which will all have a lot of coverage of this tournament. Anything who follows football in Ukraine, Russia, and the former Soviet states would know of this tournament.--BoguSlav 20:24, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Good job! Kills any argument for "deletion". 176.26.247.147 (talk) 08:37, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

• Delete all, non-notable pre-season friendly tournament. season articles are clear contraventions of WP:NSEASONS. Fenix down (talk) 16:07, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 04:44, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

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• Keep, obviously. While it existed it got huge coverage and it's cancellation (mostly due to Abramovich not wanting to invest in it anymore because of other businesses) had a big effect. Organizers of many other tournaments like the United Tournament mentioned this tournament as an inspiration, which shows it has legacy. The fact is, it got much more coverage and weight than the CIS Cup, and in fact "stole the spotlight" from it. The links are in the article, hope whoever nominated the article will now look at them. 176.26.247.147 (talk) 08:23, 4 December 2013 (UTC)