Talk:Squat (exercise)

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Records

Sorry, I do not know how to edit very well, but I updated the squat world record page. It had Donnie Thompson at 1300lbs, but that was not a good lift. Here: http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/files/PLWR-M-02-20-12.pdf is a very reliable source of the records. I changed the record to reflect that, but do not know how to change it for citations. If someone could cite that source, that'd be great.

Allege?

It's pretty well known that squats are terrible for you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Craigboy (talk • contribs) 15:26, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Any orthopedic surgeon, physical therapist or exercise physiologist will tell you that not only are they NOT HARMFUL, but in fact hugely beneficial for muscles, tendons, and joints. And unlike you, they can back their claims up with thousands of peer reviewed scientific articles:[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] etc etc. Show me one peer-reviewed article saying squats are bad for you and I will eat my hat. -Lurkmolsner (talk) 14:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Who took out my note about steroids and world records

The records are fake, stop hiding it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.14.106 (talk) 19:52, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

What's your source? If you don't have a reliable source, your biased personal opinions and viewpoints should not be included. Please review WP:OR for further clarification and refrain from re-adding the material.--Yankees76 (talk) 16:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

One of us doesn't know much about natural human strength and competitive lifting :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.14.106 (talk) 03:48, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Your baseless veiled personal attack aside, you still need sources - this isn't a soapbox, it's an encyclopedia. One of us is unable to grasp that fact. --Yankees76 (talk) 12:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Request: Specific muscles trained and used during a squat

Could someone with knowledge or good researching skills please edit the article so that a specific passage is included about which muscles are activated and trained during the exercise, both major and minor muscles? Thank you. 123.243.151.30 (talk) 14:54, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Dubious

Squats are considered one of the big 3 exercises, but they are not conceded to be the "king." Deadlifts (in a uniformly trained athlete) are heavier, and cannot be cheated (with limited range of motion) like squats. Regardless, the only lift I've ever heard called the "king" is Olympic cleans, because it is the one lift in which one can get the highest possible weight overhead. This is far from a uniform colloquialism and I recommend we just take it out. -Lurkmolsner (talk) 14:29, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Face the wall squat

Added a few lines under Variants section and a redirect. This is a widely known exercise. Several good videos on YouTube. For the Chinese sub-variant there are 855,000 hits on Google (面壁蹲墙). Earliest written work seems to dates to 1985 but the book was quoted to say this is a traditional Chinese martial arts exercise. I have not seen the book. Took me three years to become proficient at it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew.ma.canada (talk • contribs) 22:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Paul Anderson

The Paul Edward Anderson article mentions him doing a 1,202 lb squat for 2 reps. Shouldn't that be mentioned in the records section? Or is it too 'unofficial' like some of his other feats of strength. Kashikom (talk) 17:55, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Parallel?

From the "Form" section:

"The squat can continue to a number of depths, but a correct squat should be at least to parallel."

What is parallel to what? How can something be more parallel or less parallel? The jargon used here should be explained for the benefit of people who come to the article to learn. Thanks, CBHA (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:23, 5 August 2011 (UTC).

I have added the following definition to the "form" section in response to the above comment as I agree it deserved extra explanation for the uninitiated: "where the hips have descended to the same level as the knees, so that a line between the knee and hip joints would be parallel with the floor". If there is a more concise or correct definition please feel free to substitute it. --Davidmir (talk) 23:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I added a short paragraph describing both the standard competition squat as well as common alternative definitions--"hamstring parallel," "femur parallel," and "quad parallel." For what it's worth, I think the usage of "parallel" is extremely confusing and should be minimized elsewhere in the article.75.187.45.215 (talk) 13:39, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Image

A different image should be used where the caption reads "The parallel back squat is the most common," as the squat depicted in the image is not to parallel. This image, for example, makes the markers of squat depth clear. 76.99.20.152 (talk) 19:00, 23 December 2011

Variants

Since there are so many squat variants listed on this article, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to organize them. Should they be put in alphabetical order? Or could we perhaps categorize them based on some kind of shared criteria? I'm going to get the bar rolling so to speak by making a 'barbell lifts' versus 'non-barbell'. Any other ideas? Y12J (talk) 09:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC) GOBLET SQUAT - What about the goblet squat? I've read that, because the dumbbell is held closer to the body's center of gravity, and since the elbows pass between the knees, encouraging hip external rotation, the maneuver is safer. This recurs in Men's Health magazine, but I'm unaware of scientific trials to back it up. Still, it should be listed by someone more knowledgeable than I. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deopressoliber (talk • contribs) 17:50, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

The illustration doesn't depict proper form

The squat illustrated isn't parallel : 1 The position could not be balanced in real life (the back is vertical, behind the balance point on the feet and the bar is on it adding to the moment arm) and gives a wrong mental image to novices : 2

the grip used loads the wrists inappropriately making it hard to hold the weight on the back in a healthy position that's 3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.90.202.29 (talk) 05:48, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

the lower illustration does however. 62.90.202.29 (talk) 05:52, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Illustrations are entirely male.

The illustrations for this article are all males. I think this makes it biased towards men, and while I know it's probably not intentional, it's kind of sexist. They do a good enough job though. Should we change that? 71.236.139.110 (talk) 04:43, 27 January 2014 (UTC)